Posted on 11/08/2014 4:34:43 AM PST by kinsman redeemer
‘At this very critical moment, there is a strong sense that the church is like a ship without a rudder,’ said a prominent Catholic conservative last week. No big deal, you might think. Opponents of Pope Francis have been casting doubt on his leadership abilities for months — and especially since October’s Vatican Synod on the Family, at which liberal cardinals pre-emptively announced a softening of the church’s line on homosexuality and second marriages, only to have their proposals torn up by their colleagues.
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Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
So according to the scriptures, you are accursed...And leading people into perdition...But then who cares about the scriptures anyway, eh???
You have a resident priest on FR who says that God and the Holy Spirit have nothing to do with picking a pope...In fact, pope Benedict makes the same claims...
Replying to the question “does the Holy Spirit pick the Pope?” Then Cardinal Ratzinger said:
“I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the Pope…I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit’s role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined.”
I’m rereading Benedict’s three books re Jesus of Nazareth. The man is a genius. So I’m pretty much okay with this quote.
Well thank God in the 'real' church people can divorce and remarry and have sex and it will not be a sin...
Lol! This is one of my favorite blogs...and I love the Sacred art he always uses.
:-)
A friend of mine here in CA got to know him about 10 years ago. She was very impressed with him and was hoping he’d run for President in 2008.
Two things:
(1) I agree that there is no excuse for rudeness, but I also think that we should try to be charitable to all, not just men of the cloth.
(2) Although I generally agree with Fr. AM, I do not agree that it is safe to assume that what a priest says represents Traditional Catholic teaching. The fact that many do not is a real problem in the Church.
That’s because those Catholics do not wish to see their Cardinals in a bad light. They have their heads entrenched too far in the sand.
Does your church not believe in marriage for life?
Catholics marry for life. That’s what I was taught, anyway, as a Catholic. I don’t think annulments should be handed out like candy. My only point is that, when one spouse commits adultery, for example, the faithful spouse should be granted an annulment, or there should be some other way to allow that person to move on with life.
That's just plain wrong. At least, the fact that a marriage lasted a long time only weighs on the side of validity. It is NOT a conclusive piece of evidence. Either the priest they talked to was careless in his speech, or the women misunderstood what they were being told. It is true that adultery that starts immediately after the wedding is evidence of nullity, while adultery that starts only after 30 years is not. But discovering the truth is what the annulment process is all about.
Doesn't matter what my church or any church believes...It's what God says that matters...
Catholics marry for life. That’s what I was taught, anyway, as a Catholic. I don’t think annulments should be handed out like candy. My only point is that, when one spouse commits adultery, for example, the faithful spouse should be granted an annulment, or there should be some other way to allow that person to move on with life.
There is...
Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
If fornication is the cause for the divorce, then re-marriage is acceptable to Jesus...
Why do you guys pretend that verse doesn't exist as written???
The people at this meeting were worried about paying a large sum of money to go through the annulment process, only to be denied an annulment in the end.
According to what I've read, the reason Pope Francis is bringing up the annulment process as an issue is that he once fired an official who was overcharging for it.
Anyway, that's why I'm in favor of Pope Francis addressing this topic. Thank you for your feedback, Father. Have a good night.
You are wrong, author seems to be good Catholic worried about more and more church’s clergyman becoming liberal protestants.
“You are wrong, author seems to be good Catholic worried about more and more church’s clergyman becoming liberal protestants.”
There is no danger of civil war among Catholics. Most faithful Catholics would never wish any harm on their fellow Catholics. The people in parishes are the ones who make the church work. They are the ones who keep it going. None of them even talk about this kind of thing.
The article also unfairly attacked Cardinal Burke. From the article:
“Pope Francis intends to sack Burke, whose habit of dressing up like a Christmas tree at Latin Masses infuriates him.”
Cardinal Burke has never dressed up like a Christmas tree at mass. That comment is just ignorant and bigoted.
The article portrays what I consider the poor decisions of Pope Francis at the recent Synod as the beginning of a “civil war”. This is totally untrue. The Bishops and Cardinals were united and supported and endorsed church teaching.
There is no “civil war”. To say that there is shows ignorance about Catholics.
How does that fit the context of saying the big bang theory trumps the 7 days of creation in the 6000 year timeframe clearly laid out in Genesis?
DOES Genesis teach that the earth was created in six days, and that the Earth is 6000 years old?
The author used the term in the title of the article. It was the central point of the article. The author said civil war clearly and repeatedly as if this is what he meant. If he meant something else why did he not say it?
What is civil war supposed to be a metaphor for? The author gave no indication whatsoever.
Of course people in the parishes disagree on things. They would not be human if they did not.
But it is their financial contributions and their volunteering of time that keeps the Catholic church going. They do the work and pay the bills. They have no inclination whatsoever towards “civil war” as the author puts it.
I am glad you agree with me that the author was unfair to Cardinal Burke. I also feel he was unfair to almost all Catholics.
It concerns me if the Bishops and Cardinals are not united in supporting church teaching. I do not know how strong the disagreement is but neither do most Catholics. In fact, other than at Confirmation, most Catholics never meet a Bishop or Cardinal in their entire lives. They have no interaction with them, don't know their views and at most hear a recording of one of them speaking asking for money.
There is no civil war, There will not be one. The author is simply ignorant about the faith of most Catholics.
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