Posted on 11/03/2014 11:14:00 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
God has a message for these Southern Baptists, and it has eternal implications:
Matthew 7:21-23.
I suggest you take heed.
SBCer here:
Ain’t happennin’.
They won’t. They’re too squeamish and/or uninformed.
I posted this because experienced pastors are increasingly saying that that doctrine can be taught best in a pastoral approach which doesn't start out by reviling and repulsing the lost lamb.
If that is the case, then it looks like we have something to talk about.
There's no indication here that I don't wish them well.
I would print the same about my own Catholic pastors.
I write as somebody who has had some life experience, both as the "shepherd" and as the "sheep."
Agree. It's a bad habit; a "vice".
Too bad. "Zombie" has done the world a great favor by documenting the San Francisco sodomites' depravity.
Luke 10 New King James Version (NKJV) The Seventy Sent Out 10 After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also,[a] and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go. 2 Then He said to them, The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, Peace to this house. 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house. 8 Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you. 9 And heal the sick there, and say to them, The kingdom of God has come near to you. 10 But whatever city you enter, and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say, 11 The very dust of your city which clings to us[b] we wipe off against you. Nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near you. 12 But[c] I say to you that it will be more tolerable in that Day for Sodom than for that city.
You can be a virginal 13-year-old boy who realizes that has his male friends get interested in girls, he is not getting interested in girls at all, but rather interested in the other guys, in a way he finds confusing and emotionally tumultuous.
This can go on for years without him saying or doing a single thing that's "gay."
He has not habits of vice. He is not deliberately fantasizing. He is no going to gay porn sites. He is not secretly imagining himself bodily entwined with this guy or that one. He is just feeling unbidden attraction.
Afaiac, tone can and should be kind. The biblical teaching must remain clear but we can be kind in how we, as imperfect beings ourselves, relate it.
To love the sinner and hate the sin, to love the one most in need. The homosexual is a sinner and in need of repentance for all his/her sins including the sexual sins. Since many homosexuals do not think their sexual sins are sins to repent of they are indeed the ones most in need. Pray their ears hear the word of God and their eyes open to see the evil that defines their lives.
It's only a matter of time until they fold. Satan is very effective in his techniques. I'll bet not one LGBT activist is repenting of anything. No language. No ideas. No doctrines. In fact they'll continue to push others to "repent" until all mainstream churches have borrowed their doctrine from them instead of listening to Christ in the bible.
Me too. I had a friend at church who moved away. He got up in front of his new choir and announced he was a homosexual. He was kicked out of choir and church that day. This happened a few years ago. Do not know what happened to him.
I do not believe that. I believe they believe it. Self-deception and excuses are common with all sins.
If you want to go there, lying is an orientation. The desire to lie and save yourself from uncomfortable situations is natural. At the same time the desire itself is sin. You can play with terms all day long. Desiring evil is itself evil. I do not find the term “orientation” at all helpful. If it must be used, then let’s be consistent and call all sins orientations.
You know, I didn’t even know about the Zombies. Now I’m gonna have to go in. Sigh...
I think their comments were “mistranslated”.
Tell it to John the Baptist.. did he not call King Herod out..
I would think you’re right about that. If your first step in pastoral care is proclaiming, “God says you are disgusting and depraved. Go to the Bible and look up “abomination!” -— then what’s Step Two?
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I don’t suppose his response was, “Say, tell me more about this Jesus”?
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