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A lot of twisting of God's Word in this article.

It ignores all Jesus said about sin, as well as what He did about it.

And the liberal view of how adult humans should live is not childlike.

1 posted on 11/02/2014 8:31:57 AM PST by Faith Presses On
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My Gaydar just went off like general quarters on the USS Enterprise.

2 posted on 11/02/2014 8:40:10 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Is there a reason why Mooney’s thoughts are of ANY importance to me?


3 posted on 11/02/2014 8:42:43 AM PST by cloudmountain
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So Jesus got himself crucified to redeem us from what?


4 posted on 11/02/2014 9:04:32 AM PST by Argus
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An old reply posted last March:

John Dewey, The Frankfurt School, and Saul Alinsky have had their way with us for a century and it has resulted in the exaltation of the collective over the individual. The movement these people represent holds that the individual is not culpable either for his sins or for his crimes because it is society who has failed the criminal and the siner by failing properly to educate and motivate him.

All this comes from an original source, how do we view the essential nature of man? The conservative, as an inheritor of the Judeo-Christian tradition views man as a fallen creature, a sinful creature, one who is in need of education, yes, but more importantly a creature in need of redemption. The leftist sees man as a tabula rasa, an empty field upon which society, led by elite leftists, can with proper stimulation (think of rats in a Skinner box) condition the individual into conformity with the values of the mass.

So John Dewey starts in kindergarten and eliminates merit from a list of virtues taught to children, indeed, the whole concept of good and evil, merit and the lack of it, and especially competition are systematically eradicated from the child's world. Although it comes from a leftist, the old joke about all children being above average is too revealing to be funny.

The whole thrust of the liberal criminal justice system is to eliminate the idea of guilt and culpability and substitute rehabilitation. In the process, guilt is generalized, the individual is exculpated in society is blamed.

The process of generalizing from the individual to the mass is applied by leftists across the board and we see it in spades in the workplace. It is in the interests of employers to find and fix fault and correct them to increase efficiency and profit but it is in the interest of the politician to insinuate himself into that process and distort it so that he dominates the process. So we see a plethora of rules, regulations, union influence etc. all of which tend to see the employee not as an individual but as a unit of a greater mass. The whole idea of collective bargaining is to destroy individual responsibility as it destroys the relationship between master and servant. The politician wants the employee beholden to him so he devises a system which recognizes the employee as part of the mass beholden to the politician rather than the employer. In the process individual responsibility is lost.

Dennis Prager was absolutely right when he said that your view of politics depends on your view of the nature of man.


6 posted on 11/02/2014 9:36:49 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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please does the author provide a reference to the statement that the Pharisees preached Original Sin?

sounds very wrongo or at least seriously distorted. for one thing, Original Sin is a doctrine developed within the Christian tradition after the church had pretty much broken off from its parent Jewish faith affiliation... you can read the basis of Original Sin into Paul/Saul somewhat, as did St Augustine...who is generally assigned “credit” or “blame” (as you like it) for really being the chief propounder of the OS doctrine. Augustine lived 400 years after Jesus and his fellow Jews, Pharisees and all the others, were doing their thing in Israel/Judaea, and the Jewish tradition did not adopt the OS doctrine (so that this is a key distinction between our received Christian and Jewish traditions today)

anyway I’m cautious about this article,...
thanks


7 posted on 11/02/2014 9:37:48 AM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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One of the most common and insidious ways of twisting Scripture is to point out that “Jesus didn’t say anything about X, Y, or Z.” E.g., abortion, or sodomy.

Of course, we don’t know absolutely everything Jesus said, or didn’t say.

What is certain is that we DO know what the authors of the New Testament believed it necessary to RECORD from the preaching of Jesus. It’s what’s in the New Testament. And it is NOT the entirety of the Christian Faith, for the simple reason that the Christian Faith encompasses the teaching of the Jewish Faith.

There is no evidence of a DOCTRINAL difference between the Pharisees and Jesus. All that Jesus brought that was new was His Divine Self.

The OLD Testament is quite emphatic about Original Sin. The argument that “Jesus didn’t say anything about Original Sin” is as jejune as “Jesus didn’t say anything about the Trinity” or “Jesus didn’t say anything about abortion” or “Jesus didn’t say anything about homosexuality” or “Jesus didn’t say anything about wire fraud.”


11 posted on 11/02/2014 10:08:37 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Some one telling every one what scripture proves with out producing one line of scripture is not to be trusted.


19 posted on 11/02/2014 11:22:24 AM PST by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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Lots of twisting, “It’s interesting to note that Jesus knew his identity as the Son of God, yet he did not speak of himself with that terminology”

Of the multitude Son of God verses in the NT here’s two:

Mat 27:43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?


20 posted on 11/02/2014 12:01:37 PM PST by Fithal the Wise
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Do people really get their religious news from the Huffington Post?


22 posted on 11/02/2014 3:10:13 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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Jesus was talking about the “faith” of little children, how they accept what is told them.

Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

As far as Jesus not being born in sin that’s an easy one. Born of a virgin by the Holy Spirit. The male determines the blood, not the female, and life is in the blood. No sin.


23 posted on 11/02/2014 4:02:17 PM PST by bobo1 (progressives=commies/fascists)
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One of the joys of creating your own god is that you can make him say anything you want.


24 posted on 11/02/2014 5:07:27 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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