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Which Versus Did the NIV Delete
http://www.sound-doctrine.net/VersesDeletedFromNIV.htm ^ | ? | ?

Posted on 10/25/2014 9:29:35 PM PDT by do the dhue

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To: GeronL
In this corner we have the reigning champion KJV!

didn't the protestant revolution remove a few books from the real bible also??? entire books????

101 posted on 10/26/2014 8:31:44 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: reasonisfaith
Cutting verses out of God’s word is a no-no.

Ah, that's not quite what has happened.

The publishers were not just restyling the KJV language into today's English, nor arbitraritly eliminating some of the KJV verses.

What happened was that in each case, the translators fully translated the Greek text documents that were given to them. And in each case, the publishers printed the entire document that the translators gave them.

In Comment #1 we read:

"Does anybody know why these versus were deleted from the NIV?"

I answered "Yes" without elaborating, because this is an incomclusive question. Here's a restatement of what I think the poster should have asked:

>> "Does anybody know why these verses which appear in the King James Bible were not found in the New International Version?" <<

To this, the answer is simple:

"The Greek New Testament (compiled by Desiderius Erasmus) from which the KJB was translated is not the same as the Greek text (compiled by Westcott and Hort) from which the NIV was translated.

The 1500s Erasmus text contained these verses, The 1800s Westcott/Hort text did not have them."

That is the situation, but do you see that? The Bible publishers didn't just cut verses out of God's Word. The fault was that the compilers of the modified Greek text underlying the NIV did not include them, counting them as not having been in the original inspired Scripture.

Got it? In other words, the "experts" of the 1800s were saying that the Erasmus Greek New Testament, and hence the KJB, were not legitimate, and needed to be replaced by their reconstructed Greek text and with translations made from it.

(Whew!)

102 posted on 10/27/2014 1:27:19 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: terycarl
didn't the protestant revolution remove a few books from the real bible also??? entire books????

No. The deuterocanonical books, the uninspired Apocrypha books, were printed as a part of the Authorized Version for many years, up until about 1900 AD.

103 posted on 10/27/2014 2:26:28 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

Funny how you never hear of KJV readers having to scramble to explain why their version is just as authentic as the others.

It’s always the NIV on the defensive.


104 posted on 10/27/2014 7:39:35 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they believed not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: do the dhue

This heer redd nekk knows about the Waltons. Theyre gud foks.


105 posted on 10/27/2014 8:45:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: terycarl

You mean the ones that say having a daughter is an awful thing?


106 posted on 10/27/2014 3:20:55 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: reasonisfaith

Well, you know, most NIV/NASB/eclectic-text readers do believe in live and let live.

There are concerted critiques of the KJV and they are blistering.


107 posted on 10/27/2014 3:45:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: imardmd1
Got it? In other words, the "experts" of the 1800s were saying that the Erasmus Greek New Testament, and hence the KJB, were not legitimate, and needed to be replaced by their reconstructed Greek text and with translations made from it.

Sigh... more half truths. This is a first world problem, really. We now have access to more archeological data on bible manuscripts than most people could sift through in a lifetime. And modern printing makes it easy to do copious footnotes. Apparently some people do not appreciate intellectual honesty.

108 posted on 10/27/2014 3:51:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CynicalBear
You mean the ones that say having a daughter is an awful thing?

put that in context, I have no idea of what you are asking.

109 posted on 10/27/2014 6:09:17 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Fine, I’ll let the Good Lord direct my paths.


110 posted on 10/27/2014 6:12:53 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they believed not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: terycarl
>>put that in context, I have no idea of what you are asking.<<

You denigrate those who don't include the Apocrypha yet you don't even know what's in them??

111 posted on 10/27/2014 6:13:58 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: reasonisfaith

No better resolution could be made.


112 posted on 10/28/2014 8:17:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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