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Francis: Church has One Year to Mature. In the Meantime, its Doors are Wide Open
La Stampa-Vatican Insider ^ | 10/19/14 | Iacoppo Scaramuzzi

Posted on 10/20/2014 9:31:28 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow

Francis: “Church has One Year to Mature.” Yes Francis, and you demonstrated your level of maturity by banishing Cardinal Burke and removing him from being the head of the Church’s highest court to an honorary position overseeing the Knights of Malta.

Francis is the faux humility Pope whose true colors have been on exhibit at this synod. Francis, the Jesuit who hides behind the robes of men like Cardinal Kasper. Now, he will spend the next year purging all those Bishops, Archbishops and Cardinals who are not in agreement with his Jesuit ways.


21 posted on 10/20/2014 10:11:33 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: MeganC

Sounds like one of those doomsday preachers

“The end of the world is in one year, send all your wealth to me and I will fight the demons!”


22 posted on 10/20/2014 10:12:40 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Why? Because the priesthood is a veritable synogogue of Satan, a group of men who are supposed to lead sinners to the only source of salvation, the Lord Jesus Christ. Instead, they teach total insanity about praying to a goddess and other dead humans as the pagans do, placing themselves between people and Christ, prophecies from terrified children and worshipping statues and relics among other demented acts.

You know, I used to feel offended at vicious rants like this. Now they just bore me.

Tell me, what is more Satanic, the fact we have a modernist Pope, or the above rant against a Church that can be traced back to apostolic times.

The Church has had Popes that were much worse, yet it still stands, dogma untainted.
23 posted on 10/20/2014 10:13:25 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: GeronL

Hmmm. Hate to say but the way I read what Mr. Bergoglio had to say is that it reads like a threat with an implied “Or else” in it.


24 posted on 10/20/2014 10:14:45 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: marshmallow

25 posted on 10/20/2014 10:21:26 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: DarkSavant; metmom

A church that thinks Mary was God’s daughter, born and lived without sin and never died is very tainted. None of that is Biblical, it is all made up and blasphemy. A church that thinks it has the power to decide who is and who is not a Saint and what role they play in heaven is heralding blasphemy.

The idea that humans need to pray to Saints instead of Jesus as “intercessors” is ridiculous. Jesus is God and he does not need dead humans (laughably appointed by humans to jobs in heaven) to lobby for you.

It is all about as Biblical as the Mormons converting the dead to Mormonism.


26 posted on 10/20/2014 10:23:20 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

“What does that mean?”

Evolve?


27 posted on 10/20/2014 10:24:41 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: MeganC

Oh, but he’s so humble and “collegial,” remember? As long as things are going his way, I guess.


28 posted on 10/20/2014 10:28:24 AM PDT by livius
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To: GeronL
A church that thinks Mary was God’s daughter, born and lived without sin and never died is very tainted. None of that is Biblical, it is all made up and blasphemy.

A. Daughter? Did Mary conceive Jesus? Is Jesus God? Would Mary then be God's mother?
B. Mary, full of Grace - Luke 1:28

The idea that humans need to pray to Saints instead of Jesus as “intercessors” is ridiculous. Jesus is God and he does not need dead humans (laughably appointed by humans to jobs in heaven) to lobby for you.

A. The Saints aren't dead
B. We don't "need" to pray to saints for intercession. You can pray to God or Jesus also. For example, we pray the Our Father every Mass. The Church recognizes Saints can speak to God in our behalf. Why is this bed?
29 posted on 10/20/2014 10:30:46 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: GeronL

What church thinks Mary is God’s daughter (any more than all of us are the sons and daughters of God)? It’s not the Catholic Church.


30 posted on 10/20/2014 10:30:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: DarkSavant

*bad


31 posted on 10/20/2014 10:31:01 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: marshmallow
The headline is very misleading. He didn't say "the Church has one year to mature," he said "the Church has one year to mature the ideas in the relatio". This synod was the preliminary meeting to the synod next year; that's all it means.
32 posted on 10/20/2014 10:31:41 AM PDT by Campion
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

I pray that the hatred is lifted from your heart and you find peace.

...praying for the wacky can be a terribly lonely and fruitless venture...


33 posted on 10/20/2014 10:32:57 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: GeronL
it is all made up and blasphemy

It's blasphemous to believe that God restored some (not even all!) of the prerogatives of Eve to his own son's mother?

Do you even know what the word "blasphemous" means?

34 posted on 10/20/2014 10:33:50 AM PDT by Campion
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To: GeronL
The idea that humans need to pray to Saints instead of Jesus

"instead of Jesus"? That idea is not one that any Catholic believes.

35 posted on 10/20/2014 10:35:08 AM PDT by Campion
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To: John O

That’s because so many of them are heretics.


36 posted on 10/20/2014 10:37:17 AM PDT by piusv
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To: GeronL

The idea that humans need to pray to Saints instead of Jesus as “intercessors” is ridiculous

...I am a Catholic...I do not need to pray to saints if I do not choose to do so...

...any more than I need to respond to ignorance on online fora...but I do both for reasons I’m certain are far beyond your limited ken...


37 posted on 10/20/2014 10:38:51 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: GeronL

The Catholic Church is nothing more than the perversion of the Faith to suit the purposes of the Roman aristocracy. The Romans hijacked the Faith.... added a strong dash of paganism... and came up with authoritarianism by another name.

It’s very telling that the “Protestant” church really gained traction when the Bible became readily available to the populace.


38 posted on 10/20/2014 10:40:06 AM PDT by Pharsalus (Ceterum censeo, Sinis esse delendam)
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To: Campion

I agree. This is step 1. The ideas contained in the report get a year of public airing (better term to use here than “mature”), afterwhich they’ll be discussed again.

Iow Francis thanked them for their work, said “let’s think on this for the next year before the follow-on meeting”


39 posted on 10/20/2014 10:42:44 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Pharsalus

So between the Council of Nicene and the Middle Ages(about 1200 years), God saw it fitting that a false, hijacked faith was all that remained available for people seeking Christ?


40 posted on 10/20/2014 10:42:53 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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