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Church should not fear change, pope says at synod close
Reuters ^ | Sun Oct 19, 2014 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 10/19/2014 4:42:49 PM PDT by Gamecock

Pope Francis on Sunday closed an assembly of Catholic bishops that revealed deep divisions on how to reach out to homosexuals and divorced people, saying the Church should not be afraid of change and new challenges.

Francis, who has said he wants a more merciful and less rigid Church, made his comments in a sermon to some 70,000 people in St. Peter's Square for the ceremonial closing of a two-week assembly, known as a synod.

"God is not afraid of new things. That is why he is continuously surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways," he said.

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1 posted on 10/19/2014 4:42:49 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: daniel1212; CynicalBear; Alex Murphy; metmom

**God is not afraid of new things.**

Let’s see how the FRoman Catholic contingent spins, uhhh, I interprets this.


2 posted on 10/19/2014 4:44:45 PM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret.)
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To: Gamecock

So what are faithful Catholics to do?

Call for reformation?

That would make them what then?

Quite a dilemma for them, isn’t it?


3 posted on 10/19/2014 4:46:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Gamecock

I always thought of the Church as akin to the Marines. There is an ethos that is to be unchanged. That is, regardless of what the surrounding culture is, the culture of the Church and the Marines are to remain the same.


4 posted on 10/19/2014 4:47:51 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Gamecock

Remarried divorced Catholics can receive communion whenever they want. Gay people are welcome at Mass. There isn’t a “state of grace” scanner in churches. What these forces want is to be told that sin is not sin and for all the faithful to concur.
This Pope scares me so much!


5 posted on 10/19/2014 4:48:18 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Gamecock

Nobody has any desire to spin anything. The pope was wrong and he was beaten back by the bishops — again debunking the protestant line that the pope has absolute power in the Church.


7 posted on 10/19/2014 4:48:53 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Gamecock

If the purpose of change is to return from evil to good, then change is laudable. If the purpose of change is to accept an adiaphoric cultural phenomenon for the sake of bringing people to Christ, then change is laudable. All other forms of change in the church are damnable, for all other forms of change are turning away from what God has ordained for our good.


8 posted on 10/19/2014 4:49:44 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Gamecock

Homosexuality is not new. God has already spoken and acted on the subject. We are the ones slow to learn.


9 posted on 10/19/2014 4:50:14 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Take it up with the Pope.


10 posted on 10/19/2014 4:50:21 PM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret.)
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To: Gamecock

I don’t fear change, I fear sin.


11 posted on 10/19/2014 4:50:34 PM PDT by tioga (WFTD...be there or be square.)
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To: Gamecock

The Pope does not know God.

God has anticipated “new things” since the beginning of time.

What a phony, trying to shoehorn the secular into the immutable word of God.


12 posted on 10/19/2014 4:55:55 PM PDT by plangent
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To: Gamecock

“God is not afraid of new things. That is why he is continuously surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways,”

In 60 years, we’ve gone from God the Omniscient, to God the Perpetually Surprised.

If He gets any smaller, we won’t need to kill God with scientism; we’ll be able to squash Him like an insect.


13 posted on 10/19/2014 4:55:56 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Gamecock
Sounds very "progressive".

It depends on what the change is. If it is going against the word of God, then it is better to be afraid of that change, are remain on the traditional solid foundation.

14 posted on 10/19/2014 4:55:58 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Gamecock

The Lord does not change. Therefore is the Church decides to change, that change did not come from the Holy Spirit, but from the traditions of man.


15 posted on 10/19/2014 4:56:55 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Moorings

..and remain on the traditional solid foundation.


16 posted on 10/19/2014 4:56:57 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Gamecock

There seems to be a clear pattern coming into focus with this Pope. This pattern strongly suggests that he really wants to pull the Catholic church in a liberal direction. He’s trying as witnessed on many occasions now, but you can tell he is being restrained. However, he appears determined.

God is not afraid of new things? Like, accepting the practice of homosexuality? God is unchanging.

I am not a Catholic, but I am really concerned about where this Pope seems to be pushing the Catholic church. My gut tells me that this guy is a leftist who, given enough space would like to see the Catholic church lurch to the left.


17 posted on 10/19/2014 4:58:47 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Gamecock

that’s a ridiculous statement


18 posted on 10/19/2014 4:59:25 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“God is not afraid of new things. That is why he is continuously surprising us, opening our hearts and guiding us in unexpected ways,”

I think God spoke and some didn’t want to hear, Truth won out over namby-pamby feel goodism.


19 posted on 10/19/2014 5:04:30 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Gamecock

He sounds like 0. 0 admires this pope. Nuff said.


20 posted on 10/19/2014 5:12:17 PM PDT by xp38
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