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AP confirms: "Outed" Forte exclusively responsible for "Gayspel", only ONE Father mentioned issue
rorate-caeli ^ | October 15, 2014

Posted on 10/16/2014 2:59:51 PM PDT by NYer

FULL TITLE: AP confirms: "Outed" Forte exclusively responsible for "Gayspel", only ONE Father had even mentioned issue in Synod Hall


Bruno "Outed" Forte
From Nicole Winfield's Associated Press article on Synod special secretary Abp. Bruno "Outed" Forte. We post it here for the record of the history of the most embarrassing document in Catholic history, and its most infamous passage, where Forte sneaked his own "New Gospel":

Erdo has already "outed" the official who wrote the section on gays, Monsignor [Archbishop] Bruno Forte, appointed by Pope Francis as the special secretary to the synod. Forte is an Italian theologian known for pushing the pastoral envelope on dealing with people in "irregular" unions while staying true to Catholic doctrine.


Technically speaking, Forte and all the members of the drafting committee had access to far more material than the bishops themselves since they had the lengthy written speeches each synod "father" submitted prior to the meeting. Those written speeches factored into the draft report, even if the bishops didn't utter them during the four minutes each was allowed to speak.

In fact, the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said he recalled only one speech out of about 265 about gays during the debate.

So it's not surprising that bishops didn't recognize everything in the draft report since these written submissions weren't made public or distributed to the bishops themselves, and the oral presentations only reflected a summary or particular point that a bishop wanted to make. But at the same time, there is no real way to know which bishop or bishops had proposed such ground-breaking language or whether it was more a reflection of Forte's view. [Source]


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bishops; brunoforte; catholic; familysynod; francis; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; synod; synodonthefamily; vatican

1 posted on 10/16/2014 2:59:51 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/16/2014 3:01:12 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

So which is it? Did this secretary slip his own views into the document?

Or was it just a bad translation that caused confusion?

Or a little of both?


3 posted on 10/16/2014 3:11:51 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman; Gamecock; metmom
Erdo has already "outed" the official who wrote the section on gays, Monsignor [Archbishop] Bruno Forte, appointed by Pope Francis as the special secretary to the synod. Forte is an Italian theologian known for pushing the pastoral envelope on dealing with people in "irregular" unions while staying true to Catholic doctrine. Technically speaking, Forte and all the members of the drafting committee had access to far more material than the bishops themselves since they had the lengthy written speeches each synod "father" submitted prior to the meeting. Those written speeches factored into the draft report, even if the bishops didn't utter them during the four minutes each was allowed to speak.

So which is it? Did this secretary slip his own views into the document? Or was it just a bad translation that caused confusion? Or a little of both?

That's not the only choice we've been offered in the last 72 hours! Let's not forget Kasper's "the Africans don't know what they're talking about" explanation. You'd have to visit a laundromat with a roll of quarters right after a monster truck mud rally to see more spin in such a short amount of time!

4 posted on 10/16/2014 3:43:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

Trust Jesus. We don’t need they hype mongering either way. You have to let the crazies speak and really hear them out so they know you really heard them out and respected them as equals. Then you do what the Holy Spirit tells you. THAT is a synod, a council, any meeting.


5 posted on 10/16/2014 3:59:56 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Boogieman

Both.


6 posted on 10/16/2014 4:26:04 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: NYer

“We post it here for the record of the history of the most embarrassing document in Catholic history,”

Probably not...


7 posted on 10/16/2014 4:27:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: NYer

Stone Forte.


8 posted on 10/16/2014 5:30:52 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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Excellent interview with Cdl. Pell linked on Fr. Z's blog. He minces no words.

The Left is making themselves look foolish, which is a very, very Good Thing [tm], Deo gratias.

9 posted on 10/16/2014 5:56:25 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion

Cardinal Pell for Pope! :-D


10 posted on 10/17/2014 4:49:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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