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Does the (Third Jewish) temple need to be rebuilt?
Amazing Facts blog ^ | July 19, 2013 | Bible Answers by Pastor Dave

Posted on 10/15/2014 7:58:19 PM PDT by imardmd1

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Were YOU a slave in Egypt?

by blood? I don't know (nor do you know). If standing on allegory, then yes, yes I was.

21 posted on 10/15/2014 9:22:07 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: imardmd1

Interesting. I kept thinking of Hussein while I was reading your post.


22 posted on 10/15/2014 9:23:18 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: roamer_1

Very good point—my feeling also is that Zechariah 14 certainly figures in on the need for some kind of worship center. But any construct must take into account that no further sacrifice for sin other than that of the Lamb on the Cross, whose work was finalized there, never to be repeated again.


23 posted on 10/15/2014 9:26:36 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
Very good point—my feeling also is that Zechariah 14 certainly figures in on the need for some kind of worship center. But any construct must take into account that no further sacrifice for sin other than that of the Lamb on the Cross, whose work was finalized there, never to be repeated again.

While I tend to (want to) agree with you, one cannot deny the prophets. The sacrifices are predicted explicitly. I will have to cross that particular bridge when I get there, but as for now, I cannot teach against the prophets, as EVERY word that ever came out of the mouth of YHWH is true. Let YHWH be true, and every man a liar.

24 posted on 10/15/2014 9:38:41 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
The sacrifices are predicted explicitly.

I said "no sacrifices for sin." Maybe that, as you say, not strictl true subsequent to the Great Tribulation when the Kingdom of Heaven is instituted on earth.

What about other sacrifices for those who want to stay alive, but as yet have not completely committed trust to Messiach? Unbelievers will be present throughout the Millenium Reign, many to rise up against Yeshua/Iesous/Jesus LORD at the end, but how are their sins covered when they are not (yet) converted nor regenerated?

(Noting that David vice regent to The Christ will be ruling.)

25 posted on 10/15/2014 9:57:27 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yeah, I took the hint from some of the words in their links to other pages, but I was interested in posting a hypothesis that might draw out some interesting/unexpected responses. Thanks for your observation, and for saving me the extra effort to find the site’s religious connection.


26 posted on 10/15/2014 10:25:10 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Slyfox

No, the temple will be physical so the Beast can sit in it. The 7 year trib starts when Israel signs a peace treaty. The Jews will immediately start to build. I’m told they already have the implements ready to go. The Beast will declare He is God from there to begin the final 3 1/2 years.


27 posted on 10/16/2014 1:03:59 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

PS. Jesus will rule and reign from the temple for 1k years and EVERY NATION will be required to come there for Tabernacles unless they don’t need any rain. Egypt will loose rain and get plagues.


28 posted on 10/16/2014 1:07:42 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: imardmd1
Build it or let a meteor hit me in the head. If you don't hear from me within
the next few days, it was the Meteor.
29 posted on 10/16/2014 1:59:26 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: roamer_1

Build it - make Him come! I’m done!


30 posted on 10/16/2014 2:08:37 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: imardmd1

I don`t know if another temple will be built or not, but Jesus said he would come back at the last day, not before.

I do not see the reign of Christ as literal but as spiritual because he said he was not of this world.

Revelation tells us that those in the first resurrection will live and reign with Christ a thousand years, how can we be sure this has not already happened?

Jesus said you must be born again to see the kingdom of God and that the kingdom of God is within you.

The kingdom of God has been here for almost two thousand years, but will the temple be built? I have no idea.


31 posted on 10/16/2014 5:32:16 AM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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To: Aliska

The so-called Wailing Wall was a retaining wall, not a part of the temple itself.


32 posted on 10/16/2014 6:25:02 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Revelation 13 discusses what the Beasts look like and what they cause.

And if you look hard enough, the first 4 commandments ( not the roman catholic ones) are all in there as being violated.

1.Worship beast- 1. You shall have no other Elohim.
2. Worship the image 2. You shall not make for yourself a graven image- do not worship or bow down and serve them
3. Blaspheme YHWH. 3. you shall not make wrong use of the name YHWH
4. Mark of the beast 4. Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy

Those four in scripture tie specifically to the first four commandments that people tend to think are not as important as the last 6..

And if you ascribe to the Greco roman Latin mother church’s first four commandmemts, then you may never see what the Beast will be doing..

The satanic trinity will be counterfeiting our Heavenly Father causing people to worship the beast instead..

And considering our Heavenly Father has a different calendar than what the world uses (the world uses something named for some pope- red flag !) , maybe christendom, judaism and Islam are all on a counterfeit system underwritten by the enemy to do what the beast wants done- stealing worship from He who made heaven and earth and sea and fountains of water.

Or go on thinking the enemy isn’t that clever or desperate..


33 posted on 10/16/2014 7:06:06 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: imardmd1
>>But any construct must take into account that no further sacrifice for sin other than that of the Lamb on the Cross, whose work was finalized there, never to be repeated again.<<

But the people of Israel have not accepted that and won't until the new temple is desicrated. That will happen mid week of the last week of seven years allotted to the people of Israel in Daniel's prophesy of 490 years. Those seven years have not happened yet.

34 posted on 10/16/2014 9:19:28 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: CynicalBear
But the people of Israel have not accepted that and won't until the new temple is desicrated

That's right, when looking at it from the Mosaic Covenant viewpoint, which only those granted the grace to see it can reject the Old and accept the New Covenant.

35 posted on 10/16/2014 9:51:40 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ravenwolf
I do not see the reign of Christ as literal but as spiritual because he said he was not of this world.

Ah, no, that is NOT what He said. He said, "My Kingdom is not of this world." That speaks of the Kingdom of God/Christ. The Kingdom of Heaven is of this world, and He is the King of that Kingdom, also. There is a difference between the two.

Actually, Jesus was both human and divine, fully human and fully Deity, so His body was of this world, as was Adam's.

N'est ce pas? (is it not?)

36 posted on 10/16/2014 9:59:58 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ravenwolf
Revelation tells us that those in the first resurrection will live and reign with Christ a thousand years, how can we be sure this has not already happened?

Because the Great Tribulation has not yet occurred, for one reason.

37 posted on 10/16/2014 10:02:04 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ravenwolf
Jesus said you must be born again to see the kingdom of God and that the kingdom of God is within you.

No, He said, "The Kingdom of God is in the midst of you" as the grammar of the Greek demands.

The kingdom of God has been here for almost two thousand years, but will the temple be built? I have no idea.

The Kingdom of God is not of this world. When you are better taught, you will see that prophecy allows the Third Temple to be built, as 2 Thess. 2:3,4 and Mt. 24:15 indicate. This Pastor Dave has not made his theory account for all the context of the Bible that refers to the building of another Temple, which the Jewish scholars most certainly have.

38 posted on 10/16/2014 10:11:03 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

No, He said, “The Kingdom of God is in the midst of you


I happen to believe within you makes more sense.

Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of God is within you.

If it was in your midst it could still have the same meaning, but that is beside the point, it was here then and it is still here.

But those who are not born of the spirit can not see it.


39 posted on 10/16/2014 11:14:33 AM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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To: imardmd1

Ah, no, that is NOT what He said. He said, “My Kingdom is not of this world


Sorry about that, he said my kingdom is not of this world meaning his kingdom was from above.

And he is no longer of this world, he sits at the right hand of God.

And he said that he would raise up those who were his at the last day.

N’est ce pas? (is it not?)>>>>

same to you, what ever it means.


40 posted on 10/16/2014 11:28:24 AM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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