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1 posted on 10/10/2014 6:21:31 AM PDT by marshmallow
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If nothing else, this Synod is certainly helping to sort out the wheat from the tares.


2 posted on 10/10/2014 6:39:11 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: marshmallow

This defies rational thought, why not also bring the drug addict rapist pedophile for diner too.


3 posted on 10/10/2014 6:39:41 AM PDT by stockpirate (This will stop when conservatives take to the streets, not before.)
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To: marshmallow

-— the Priolas asked and answered a question about what parents should do in the case where their son wants to bring his homosexual partner to a Christmas dinner where their grandchildren will be present. -—

This is a pastoral question. It seems out of place, unless someone is trying to score propaganda points, or getting the camel’s nose into the tent.


4 posted on 10/10/2014 6:44:55 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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6 posted on 10/10/2014 7:14:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: marshmallow

These are the type of amoral people who would welcome their son who left his wife and children into their life with no condemnation of his behavior too.


9 posted on 10/10/2014 7:36:13 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: marshmallow
Matthew 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;

36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’

37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.


Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

14 posted on 10/10/2014 8:44:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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To: marshmallow

If the person was brought along as a friend and not as an obvious part of a couple I could see allowing it. But if the point was to parade it and make a point of their relationship, then no. Children or not. If that was not agreeable to the son then Denny’s is open on Thanksgiving and he and his partner can have dinner there.


19 posted on 10/10/2014 11:33:30 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: marshmallow

By the way Burke is a member of the Synod on the family. Wouldn’t it be great if he were Pope.


20 posted on 10/10/2014 1:30:20 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Cardinal Burke answered this question:

Applying these principles, how should parishes deal with open homosexual couples who approach to receive Holy Communion and who seek leadership roles within the parish?

This way:

Now with regard to parishes, the situation is very similar because the parish is — I believe it was Saint John Paul II who once said — a ‘family of families.’ And so, if you have a parish member who is living in public sin in a homosexual relationship, well, the priest should try to stay close to that individual — or to both the individuals if they’re Catholic — and try to help them to leave the sinful relationship and to begin to lead a chaste life. The pastor [should] encourage them also to pray and to participate in Sunday Mass and other appropriate ways of trying to overcome grave sin in their lives.

Those people [who] are living in that way certainly cannot have any leadership role in the parish, because it would give the impression to parishioners that the way they are living is perfectly alright. Because, [when] we lead in a parish, in a certain way, we are giving witness to a coherent Catholic life. And people who are not coherent with their Catholic faith aren’t given leadership roles. They are not asked, for instance, to be a lector at the Holy Mass — or [to] assume some other leadership position — until they have rectified their situation and gone through a conversion of life and then are ready to give such leadership.

On the one hand, it certainly gives scandal to parishioners with regard to a very essential part of our life, our sexuality, [and] what it means. On the other hand, it's not good for the two people involved in the disordered relationship because it also gives them the idea that the Church somehow approves of what they're doing.

Am I the only one who finds it odd that Cardinal Burke of all people did not mention that openly homosexual couples should not be allowed to receive communion (especially in the part where he mentions that they should participate in Sunday Mass)?

21 posted on 10/10/2014 1:49:09 PM PDT by piusv
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