[terycarl]

The Bible clearly teaches Mary was a sinner contrary to catholic doctrine.

where???? besides, the Catholic church teaches that she was concieved without sin, not that she never erred throughout her life. She may have had some pretty bad thoughts toward those who were beating and crucifying her Son.

[Resettozero]

She may have had some pretty bad thoughts toward those who were beating and crucifying her Son.

Teacher! Teacher! Terycarl is mindreading again!.

[CynicalBear]

I can’t believe you just posted that. Without sin yet erred? Had bad thoughts but yet sinless? Say what???

[ealgeone]

>The Bible clearly teaches Mary was a sinner contrary to catholic doctrine.<

where???? besides, the Catholic church teaches that she was concieved without sin, not that she never erred throughout her life. She may have had some pretty bad thoughts toward those who were beating and crucifying her Son.

Actually the catholic doctrine teaches she was "free" from both. There is another error in this teaching below....Mary did not offer Jesus as a sacrifice. Christ offered Himself as the sacrifice. So there are two errors in this teaching of the catholic church.

It was she, the second Eve, who, free from all sin, original or personal, and always more intimately united with her Son, offered Him on Golgotha to the Eternal Father for all the children of Adam, sin-stained by his unhappy fall, and her mother's rights and her mother's love were included in the holocaust. source: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_29061943_mystici-corporis-christi_en.html

In Luke 1 Mary admits she is a sinner in need of a Savior.

The account in Luke 2 shows she was a sinner when she and Joseph offered the sin offering in accordance with Leviticus 12. That Mary and Joseph did this totally contradicts this false teaching by the catholic cult.

Romans 3:23 notes ALL have sinned negating the idea of the immaculate conception. No exceptions carved out.

God does not contradict Himself.

[Elsie]

where???? besides, the Catholic church teaches that she was concieved without sin,

Yes, this IS what your church teaches.

But ypour choice of the word besides indicates to me, at least, that you don't care WHAT the bible might say; you'll go with what your chosen religion teaches.

[Elsie]

She may have had some pretty bad thoughts toward those who were beating and crucifying her Son.

Speculation...

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

besides, the Catholic church teaches that she was concieved without sin, not that she never erred throughout her life.

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You mean she didn’t rise from the sea-foam of the ocean on a giant seashell?