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No, rather than immediately changing what you said (like you did there -- that certainly didn't take long), why don't we take what you actually wrote in that paragraph I referenced one at time?
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"Please don't play that game with me."
That is a despicable and false accusation. I am playing games with no one.
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"Catholics are NOT just asking their so called saints to pray."
Yes they are. They present their specific intentions to the saints, with the understanding that the saints will be able to do effective intercessory prayer to God for them, and for those specific needs they present.
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"They pray TO them to have them perform specific acts."
Yes -- to act of "praying for them and for their specific needs".
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"Catholics also tell us those so called saints or Mary have more influence."
Do you mean to tell me you don't believe it is easier to communicate face-to-face with God in heaven (like guardian angels do) than it is on earth, with all of the multitude of distractions around us here, and where we are seeing "through the glass, darkly"?
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"They claim only those proclaimed by the CC are saints."
No, they do not. That is a complete falshood. (Look it up.)
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"Then they tell us it's those saints that present the prayers."
Those saints present the prayers along with our own prayers to God.
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"If only saints present prayers to God and you are not a saint God must not hear your prayers unless they go through saints."
Total nonsense. Catholics believe God hears ALL prayers, including those from us, and those from the saints. (By the way, the Church also teaches that there are many saints in heaven who were never canonized or declared saints by the Church.)
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"It's all double speak."
Not on my side.
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Once again, I urge you to seek the truth before posting things about the Catholic Church.
(I have to go now, so I'll bid you goodnight, and pray that you will be blessed with a full understanding and appreciation of the full truth about the Church founded by Jesus Christ.)
Dear St. Anthony, we are all pilgrims. We came from God and we are going to Him. He who created us will welcome us at journey's end. The Lord Jesus is preparing a place for all His brothers and sisters. St. Anthony, Guide of Pilgrims, direct my steps in the straight path. Protect me until I am safely home in heaven. Help me in all my needs and difficulties. (Name them.) [http://catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?s=41]
Tell me again how Catholics ONLY ask them to be pray FOR them.
>>Do you mean to tell me you don't believe it is easier to communicate face-to-face with God in heaven<<
Yes, I do mean to tell you that. We are told to go boldly before the throne. To think that somehow God is incapable of hearing our prayers as well as those in heaven is doubting His omnipresence and omniscience.
>>"They claim only those proclaimed by the CC are saints."<<
If you don't believe that why do they only declare some to be saints? Scripture says all believers are saints.
And so what's up then? Don't Catholics believe that THEY can offer up effective intercessory prayers?
Of that their living here on earth in the here and now friends of relatives can't offer up effective intercessory prayers?
Why would dead people whose souls are supposedly in heaven be more able to offer up effective intercessory prayers than any child of God here on earth?
Didn't Jesus promise that if we prayed in His name, that the FATHER would hear and grant us our requests? What more do Catholics need than the word of Jesus to settle the matter? Or don't they really believe that He really meant it?