[CynicalBear]

>>In addition to that, we can ask others to pray for us (both other living Christians, and those who have passed on).<<

Please don't play that game with me. Catholics are NOT just asking their so called saints to pray. They pray TO them to have them perform specific acts. Catholics also tell us those so called saints or Mary have more influence. They claim only those proclaimed by the CC are saints. Then they tell us it's those saints that present the prayers. If only saints present prayers to God and you are not a saint God must not hear your prayers unless they go through saints. It's all double speak.

Communicating with those who have passed from this life is not supported by but is condemned in scripture. Communicating with those who have passed from this world is only found in paganism.

[narses]

[Heart-Rest]

Please don't play that game with me. Catholics are NOT just asking their so called saints to pray. They pray TO them to have them perform specific acts. Catholics also tell us those so called saints or Mary have more influence. They claim only those proclaimed by the CC are saints. Then they tell us it's those saints that present the prayers. If only saints present prayers to God and you are not a saint God must not hear your prayers unless they go through saints. It's all double speak."

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You really should make an effort to really learn the truth about these assertions you are making there, and apply corrections to the whole paragraph.

[terycarl]

They claim only those proclaimed by the CC are saints.

no they don't...they merely proclaim that certain people are definitely in Heaven....all in Heaven are Saints