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Why would anyone become Catholic?
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Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: metmom; editor-surveyor
When I start getting freepmail that crosses over into harassment, I have sometimes used a technique that seems to work. I simply assure the sender their malignant missives will be deleted without being read. Shuts 'em right down. Better if it doesn't happen at all, but some folks just can't walk away from the need to come out on top:
2 Timothy 2:14-16  Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.  (15)  Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.  (16)  But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
It's like some cases I've had.  Sometimes, after both parties have presented their arguments, and the judge is ready to deliberate, the judge will ask, "do you have anything else to add?"  And sometimes the very best answer to that is simply "No, your honor, I'm willing to stand pat with what has already been presented." Likewise here, if you know you've covered the bases, and have been faithful to and honest with God's word, what else can be done but let the judge decide?

For my part, I very much like to "win." It goes with the territory of being an attorney.  You're only as good as your last victory.  But in the instruction of God's word, "victory" isn't defined by being the one who gets the last punch:
2 Timothy 2:24-26  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,  (25)  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;  (26)  And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
So while it is necessary to rebuke error, that's just a tributary to the higher goal of edification, setting forth the clear teaching of the word, with the objective of building up faith in Jesus, Whose name is as wonderful in Greek as it is in Arabic, or Hebrew, or Chinese, or Kurdish, or whatever, because His name is all about Who He is, not the poor croaking sounds we make.  When we one day learn the tongues of Angels, even then there will still be no sweeter praise to His holy name, than to recall His amazing love and grace, in that while we were yet sinners, He died in our place, and drew us to Himself with the cords of love.

Peace,

SR

3,481 posted on 10/27/2014 12:49:14 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
I have sometimes used a technique that seems to work. I simply assure the sender their malignant missives will be deleted without being read.

Too cerebral. I just send them a SPIKE. as in GoldenEye.
3,482 posted on 10/27/2014 1:03:03 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Springfield Reformer

An off-thread response to an on thread attack is what the mod has recommended here for years.

When the attacker brings it back to the thread, this is what happens.
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3,483 posted on 10/27/2014 1:46:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
>>Paul is comparing following Judaism to following the Way.<<

That is preposterous. Only two verses later he obviously is talking about the whole law.

Galatians 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word,

Earlier in the chapter he said this.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace.

Not a good place for those of you pushing the law.

3,484 posted on 10/27/2014 1:49:44 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor
≥>All serious ministers do the same.<<

No, they don't. And for sure none that I would listen to. Rood actually changes the meaning when he does it just as you do here.

3,485 posted on 10/27/2014 1:57:55 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

What is preposterous is your arrogant replies to what is clear fact.

Circumcision and Judaism are almost perfect synonyms as used in the NT.

Justification by the Law is a tennet of Judaism’s error.

The Galatians were being prodded by Pharisees to follow their rules, and Paul was directing them back to the Way.

Your empty reading of the chapter is like a dog chasing its own tail.

And finally, I do not push “the law,” I push obedience to his commandments, as he demanded, and as all of the four great apostles concurred.

It appears as though you fear that obedience for some reason, while his followers embrace it. Love is the reason for the law, and why he writes his laws on the hearts of those that seek him.
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3,486 posted on 10/27/2014 2:04:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Springfield Reformer; metmom
>>Likewise here, if you know you've covered the bases, and have been faithful to and honest with God's word, what else can be done but let the judge decide?<<

The difference I see in this case is that the "judge" changes each day. We are not refuting error here over and over for the sake of those who continue to post those errors but for those who read these posts who change from day to day.

3,487 posted on 10/27/2014 2:05:28 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor; Springfield Reformer; metmom
>>An off-thread response to an on thread attack is what the mod has recommended here for years.<<

Nice try but that is not what appears to have happened this time. The "attacker" went private with the attack.

3,488 posted on 10/27/2014 2:09:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

No, Rood has never changed the meaning of anything that I have seen; he makes the meaning clearer, and easier to remember.

And every minister that I can recall does indeed encourage people to write in explanations in the margins of their Bibles,and most serious students do so, as can be seen when they open those Bibles in a meeting.
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3,489 posted on 10/27/2014 2:09:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

It is exactly what happened.

I have no desire to take it further, so please stop your flame war too.


3,490 posted on 10/27/2014 2:11:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

So, you think we’ve converted him to Roman Catholicism yet? If not, how many more days does this quarantine have to last?


3,491 posted on 10/27/2014 2:13:55 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: editor-surveyor

I’ve shown you on this very thread where you have changed the words which changed the meaning of scripture. Explanations in the margins is much different then changing the very words in scripture.


3,492 posted on 10/27/2014 2:29:01 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor
>>I have no desire to take it further,<<

I'm not surprised.

3,493 posted on 10/27/2014 2:30:59 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Resettozero

LOL!


3,494 posted on 10/27/2014 2:32:19 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor
I could go on and on but here is just one example.

Rood's version.

" I have not written everything that could, or should be written about Yahshua of Nazareth, but these things I have written, so that you might know and believe that Yahshua is the messiah." Yochanan (John) 20:30-31

From real scripture.

John 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Notice any differences in Rood's MIV version? Also some important lines omitted? Don't tell me he doesn't change scripture.

3,495 posted on 10/27/2014 3:16:30 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Please give up your agitated flame war.

Enough!

And if you wish to argue with Michael Rood, here is his phone number: 888-766-3610

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3,496 posted on 10/27/2014 3:21:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

What’s the matter? Do I have too many facts for you? I have seen what that fraud has put out and what he says. I have no need to call him but if you come in here and promote his teaching and I will expose the truth.


3,497 posted on 10/27/2014 3:27:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Please stop.

You’re doing yourself no favor.


3,498 posted on 10/27/2014 3:31:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

I have promoted absolutely nothing from Rood. If you knew anything about him, you would see that.
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3,499 posted on 10/27/2014 3:33:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I will continue to expose that fraud any time his teachings show up here.


3,500 posted on 10/27/2014 3:34:53 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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