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The U.S. Is Over, Get Used To It
Creative Minority Reporta ^ | October 8, 2014 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 10/08/2014 7:31:30 AM PDT by NYer

Many people are understandably dismayed by the the Supreme Court's refusal to hear several gay marriage cases effectively codifying gay marriage in several states.

While it is certainly disappointing, it isn't really unexpected.

I hate to break this news to you, especially if you are one of these people who think that this country, a country founded with limited government, separation of powers, and federalism, is still recoverable by normal means, it isn't.

The U.S. as we knew it and understood it is gone and it isn't coming back, at least not by regular constitutional means. Nope.

Federalism, limited government, checks and balances, all gone. We now have a rapidly increasing federal behemoth with unlimited powers granted to itself rapidly centralizing power in the person of the president (I don't say office, but person). All of which is hell bent on running every part of your life including your morality, all aided and abetted by an unelected black-robed oligarchy.

You can elect all the Republicans you want, do you really think they will change anything? Not a chance.

Nope the U.S. is done. And you know what? That may be a good thing. Such government, even one founded on the principles of limited constitutional powers and federalism, can only work for a people for whom Christ is their King. That isn't us.

I don't know where we go from here, but I suspect that it is bad. I continue to believe I have a moral obligation to behave in a lawful way, but I no longer consider myself bound in loyalty to a government that has has moved beyond the powers granted to it. Morality, decency, and legitimate freedom will not be restored to Americans through election, it will take other means. I believe the world will undergo a crisis incomprehensible to most and what will emerge from the other side is a different people. That different people will choose a different government.

Until then, we have chosen tyranny and tyranny is what we will get.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: editorial; gop4obama; gopagenda; gopisthednc; romneyagenda; scotus
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To: Mark17

ping


81 posted on 10/08/2014 10:29:27 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: greene66

I feel the same way.


82 posted on 10/08/2014 10:32:34 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

See you in the catacombs. I will bring the beer.


83 posted on 10/08/2014 10:56:33 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I answer to no one but Christ, thanks.


84 posted on 10/08/2014 11:03:15 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
"You can elect all the Republicans you want, do you really think they will change anything? Not a chance."

True!

Used to be argued that "at least" Repubs drove the train more slowly over the cliff. Those days are gone, too.

85 posted on 10/08/2014 11:06:54 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
I answer to no one but Christ, thanks.

LOL so Christ told you personally not to ping me when you talk about me?

86 posted on 10/08/2014 11:51:31 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

I’ll be sure to ping you whenever I deem it appropriate. Thanks.


87 posted on 10/08/2014 11:54:08 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
I’ll be sure to ping you whenever I deem it appropriate.

And I'll continue to respond however I deem appropriate.

88 posted on 10/08/2014 12:41:05 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: NYer

I agree, the supremes decision was probably the last straw to break the camels back. One thing I picked up in this article, the author seems bent on making what he says a self fulfilling prophecy.

He basically says, “its all gone now, no need to vote, it wont do you any good. No diff between Repubs and Dems.” Riiight, by his not voting, and everybody that follows his advise, it assures that his prophecy will come to pass in spades, we’ll surely have Hillary our next overlord.

Will he even vote? He doesn’t say. He certainly implies that he wont, he stops short of saying it outright.

I don’t care what this guy says, I’m not going to help him get Hillary his president. I will do as I have always done, vote for the most conservative option possible.

Can somebody like Ted Cruz turn it all around? If some crazy doesn’t shoot him, I’m sure he’d give it his best shot. Whether he can or not, nobody better get in between me and the voting booth! I have no intention of helping vindicate the author of this article.


89 posted on 10/08/2014 1:46:59 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: NYer

I believe that our government will fall...but the nation will not. Out nation cannot be renewed with the government as it presently is.


90 posted on 10/08/2014 1:53:39 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Alex Murphy

Alex, have you noticed a kind of Catholic monarchist undertone by some in this thread? Somebody even suggesting a “benevolent” Catholic monarchy our only hope. For that reason, does there exist in the hearts of some Catholics a hope that hated protestant America does go down? Since B-chan, a Catholic and the author of the piece, is gone, we can’t ask him.

“Benevolent” my eye. If history is our guide...


91 posted on 10/08/2014 2:09:01 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: SumProVita
I believe that our government will fall...but the nation will not. Out nation cannot be renewed with the government as it presently is.

I heard you and I'm thinking this over.

But with folks from all over the world coming to the USA without registration at our borders, and with Spanish (or a dialect) projected to supplant English as the most-spoken language here in the not-distant future, please detail better what you mean by our Nation. Thanks.
92 posted on 10/08/2014 2:15:46 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

The nation as our Founders envisioned it...with citizens UNDER GOD. Without God, there will be no nation. Without God, we are doomed....and yet with all that has happened and continues to happen, our nation has NOT yet really turned back to God.


93 posted on 10/08/2014 2:40:34 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: dfwgator

Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!


94 posted on 10/08/2014 2:59:00 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: NYer

But right now this us not the worst of our problems.

I pray for the USA. May she rise again.


95 posted on 10/08/2014 3:02:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SumProVita

Agreed.

Individual Americans are desiring to live in that Beautiful City on a Hill that is the USA. But as a unified Nation of civilized people dedicated publicly to living lawfully and peacefully with one another under the benevolent protection and blessings of Providence, as some chose to call God Almighty back then, well, I hope my wife and children and their children live to see it restored and maintained.

America has been and is the best Nation this world has ever seen in almost every way that pertains to fruitful life and liberty for all its citizens. My Dad said it was true and I say it’s true. None greater!

But I’m now looking toward a far better city and country than any people on this earth so far have come close to achieving. And it shall come about on this temporal plane and without undue delay under the direct supervision of the ruling Lord Jesus Christ and all of His saints with Him.

First, I’m told by a Reliable Source, there’s a good deal of trouble headed our way.


96 posted on 10/08/2014 4:09:16 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: sasportas
Somebody even suggesting a “benevolent” Catholic monarchy our only hope.

Please, which post number? I missed it or forgot I saw it.

What you mention is precisely why the Framers and Founders of the USA chose the wording they chose in many instances and is the main outcome they were very intent on preventing, if possible.
97 posted on 10/08/2014 4:17:35 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: sasportas
Alex, have you noticed a kind of Catholic monarchist undertone by some in this thread? Somebody even suggesting a “benevolent” Catholic monarchy our only hope. For that reason, does there exist in the hearts of some Catholics a hope that hated protestant America does go down?

LOL have you noticed how some will scatter to the four winds when asked their stance on benevolent dictatorships?

98 posted on 10/08/2014 4:32:07 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks for the link.


99 posted on 10/08/2014 5:09:23 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

In post 27, the FR thread “the USA should be a benevolent Catholic dictatorship” was made reference to.

I notice that I did make a small error, it said, “a benevolent Catholic dictatorship” instead of a benevolent Catholic monarchy.

Either way, not a happy prospect. Benevolent my eye.


100 posted on 10/08/2014 6:06:26 PM PDT by sasportas
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