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Parishioners meet with bishop over gay couple
Miami Herald/ AP ^ | 9/21/14 | David Murray

Posted on 09/27/2014 12:04:33 PM PDT by steve86

GREAT FALLS, Mont.

A Roman Catholic bishop says a central Montana parish is about evenly divided over a new priest's decision to prohibit a gay couple from receiving Communion unless they divorce, live separately and write a statement affirming that a marriage is between a man and a woman.

Bishop Michael Warfel of the Diocese of Great Falls-Billings met Saturday with about 300 parishioners of St. Leo the Great Catholic Church in Lewistown, where he also led a Mass. About half the parishioners supported the Rev. Samuel Spiering's decision, while the other half were very angry, the Great Falls Tribune reported.

"There obviously is polarization, and certainly what I want to do is try to effect some healing," Warfel said Saturday. "At the same time, as a Catholic bishop, I uphold our Catholic teachings."

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21 posted on 09/27/2014 1:18:16 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: steve86

Since when do parishioners decide theology by popular vote?


22 posted on 09/27/2014 1:19:29 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: gingerbread

They already founded the Metropolitan Community Church. The couple in this case want to simply push the church into accepting their behavior as right. It isn’t about options, it’s about fear and a form of attempted extortion.


23 posted on 09/27/2014 1:22:31 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: steve86

“At the church, Wojtowick is an organist”


24 posted on 09/27/2014 1:36:41 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: steve86

This is proof that the couple are deranged. Why would any sane person want to belong to any organization that so soundly condemns what they are or think they are.


25 posted on 09/27/2014 1:39:03 PM PDT by all the best
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To: steve86

A faith must be strong, or it is only a nominal thing, an aside to life.

Socialism is a twisted parody of Christianity, that substitutes mankind for God as the center of the universe. But the end result is people behaving like the Gadarene swine, in more ways then one.

To start with, they have no direction or purpose other than whim. They dash around hither and yon, with no direction but that of their swineherd, if that. They trample, destroy and consume, creating nothing.

And as a group, they can be possessed with demons, and hurl themselves off a cliff to their doom.

But those of faith are different, for they have guidance and purpose in their faith. They also have clear rules of behavior, which it is their choice to follow or reject, and experience the consequences of each choice.

Yet these are not man’s rules, which can be changed, but the rules created by heaven, which are immutable. If one obeys the rules, they are righteous; if they do not, they are failures. And all the whining and social change in the world cannot change the rules by the breadth of a hair.


26 posted on 09/27/2014 1:40:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Walrus
I’d recommend they vote with their feet -— and LEAVE!

They leave and Satan wins.

27 posted on 09/27/2014 3:30:06 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Satan only wins if a person lets him win, or throws the game to him. This couple openly rebelled and made their position clear, the church made its position clear. If they really wanted to stick around, they could have gone the way recommended them by the church. Not easy, but if one hears what Christ said about what each and every one of us would ultimately have to decode, wd all have our own challebges, and all have our own baggage which we have to make the choice between jettisoning it or letting it weigh us down, just below what we could achieve.


28 posted on 09/27/2014 3:50:21 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009
Satan only wins if a person lets him win, or throws the game to him.

If you leave the Church Christ established, Satan wins

29 posted on 09/27/2014 4:09:30 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: steve86

And how many of these were local activists? How many are not church members? How many are nominal catholics who rarely go to church?


30 posted on 09/27/2014 5:28:41 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: FatherofFive

Good conclusion.


31 posted on 09/27/2014 5:32:54 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: LadyDoc

In any given congregation, less than half actively (weekly or more) attend. Others, not as much.


32 posted on 09/27/2014 5:48:36 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Viennacon
When did parishioner opinion begin to have ANY effect on the Word of God?

BINGO! We have a winner.

33 posted on 09/27/2014 6:50:42 PM PDT by cayuga (A gov't that can take your AR-15 can take anything else it wants.)
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To: steve86

“Evenly divided”? Any of these so-called Christians read in the Bible what God has to say about whether or not a homosexual relationship is valid in His eyes? This is the problem with the “Church” as a whole; too much man, not enough God.


34 posted on 09/27/2014 6:52:10 PM PDT by kpbruinfan (Modern day warrior, today's Tom Sawyer, floated down a river on a raft with a black guy!" - Cartman)
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To: FatherofFive
If you leave the Church Christ established, Satan wins

He wins that soul. The Catholic Church wins for those faithful enough to stay. The Catholic Church can not allow heresy to run rampant. That is why we have ex-communication. It is not punitive, it is rehabilitative.

35 posted on 09/27/2014 7:52:22 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: chajin

Then why doesn’t all these LBGT get married in that church, and leave the other churches alone? I’ll tell you why. Because the only thing these people hate more than CHRISTIANS, is to be ignored. That’s what all of us “STRAIGHTS” should be doing, ignoring them.


36 posted on 09/28/2014 8:39:08 AM PDT by gingerbread
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To: steve86
Huff is a two-time past-president of the local Kiwanis Club

Oh, well, that certainly puts it all into perspective.
Shouldn't she be able to receive Holy Communion if she held a position of such honor? I mean, really...

37 posted on 09/28/2014 9:05:46 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Viennacon

ditto’s. God didn’t ask for “input” when He inspired the sacred teachings in the bible, nor did the Church need to request public support or ratification for what it put forward in published dogma and doctrine.


38 posted on 09/28/2014 9:08:14 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Josa
Half don’t seem to be biblical Christians

Yup. Half of them don't seem to be Catholic.

Basic catechesis is still very necessary, despite great new resources like Catholic Answers.

All the pastors have to do is place a link in their bulletins, and let the internet do the heavy lifting.

39 posted on 09/28/2014 9:11:08 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Darteaus94025
It is not supposed to matter what I,you, or what Adam and Steve say; what does the Bible say.

Not just what the Bible says. The Bible doesn't even say that.

"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

40 posted on 09/28/2014 9:16:13 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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