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THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries
christiantruth.com ^ | William Webster

Posted on 09/27/2014 11:05:41 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: JPX2011; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; ...
A sacrosanct sign that produces Grace.

Wrong again.

God lavishes His grace out on us. He doesn't dispense it out in stingy little parcels.

And the grace is accessed through faith.

Ephesians 1:3-10 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Romans 5:1-2 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

John 1:14-17 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

If anyone say that the sacraments of the New Law do not contain the grace which they signify, or that they do not confer grace on those who place no obstacle to the same, let him be anathema" (Sess. viii, can.vi). "If anyone say that grace is not conferred by the sacraments ex opere operato but that faith in God's promises is alone sufficient for obtaining grace, let him be anathema" (ibid., can. viii; cf. can. iv, v, vii).

That's Catholicism. Full of judgment and condemnation.

Anathema for this and anathema for that, all for daring to disagree with dictates from the Catholic committees called the *magisterium* that have no basis in Scripture but are simply the traditions and dictates of men.

321 posted on 09/28/2014 10:32:04 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

Questions that it appears Catholics have never thought through.

If that is an example of how the Holy Spirit has guided their magisterium in assembling the Bible that left so much critical information out, then I think they need to rethink their confidence in said magisterium.


322 posted on 09/28/2014 10:34:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mlizzy; CynicalBear
The Eucharist IS Jesus!

The CCC is NOT Scripture.

323 posted on 09/28/2014 10:35:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: JPX2011

Oh sure. Jesus at the last supper handing out communion wafers.

/roll eyes.....


324 posted on 09/28/2014 10:37:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Good catch. If the woman in Revelation IS Mary, it says right there that she had more children (seed).

325 posted on 09/28/2014 10:39:06 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mlizzy

The CCC is not Scripture.


326 posted on 09/28/2014 10:42:46 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mlizzy; CynicalBear

That didn’t answer CB’s question.

Did Jesus eat His own body and drink His own blood?


327 posted on 09/28/2014 10:44:25 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ronnietherocket3
The other infallible source is the Magisterium of the Catholic Church exercised by using the Doctrine of Papal Infallibility.

Nonsense. Self-proclaimed infallibility whenever they feel like it means nothing.

328 posted on 09/28/2014 10:45:47 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: JPX2011
All generations shall call me Blessed.

Indeed she was!

She's also dead.

329 posted on 09/28/2014 10:49:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mlizzy
The Eucharist IS Jesus!

Yup; that's what your beloved CCC says all right.

Too bad the Bible makes NO such claim.

330 posted on 09/28/2014 10:51:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
Then what constitutes the Word becomes a matter of preference.

Oh?

You guys compiled it; and are NOW complaining that stuff ain't in it!!

331 posted on 09/28/2014 10:52:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." -Jesus

"If he will not listen to ROME, boil him oil or RACK him!!!"

--Torquemada

332 posted on 09/28/2014 10:54:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector."

"If he will not listen to MOM, then she is not going to pass his prayers on to me.

333 posted on 09/28/2014 10:56:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
This is my body.

Oh?

HIS body was standing there before them; that is why they KNEW His words were symbolic; something that today's Catholics refuse to admit.

334 posted on 09/28/2014 10:57:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will teach you all truth. For he shall not speak of himself; but what things soever he shall hear, he shall speak; and the things that are to come, he shall shew you. (John 16:13)

But when She, WOMAN, is come, She will teach you all truth. For She shall not speak of Herself; but what things soever She shall hear, She shall speak; and the things that are to come, She shall shew you. (The way it's taught today)



335 posted on 09/28/2014 11:00:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Why do Protestants accept Luther's authority to promulgate novel doctrines, like Sola Scriptura, when there is no evidence for it in the Bible, the early Church, or the first 1500 years of Christian history?

Oh???


2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.


I guess St. Paul REALLY meant to say...

336 posted on 09/28/2014 11:04:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

More than like: IMPRESSED!


337 posted on 09/28/2014 11:06:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mlizzy

Why is UNDERSTANDING necessary?

Just promote it!


338 posted on 09/28/2014 11:08:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Don’t forget to burn your “Pope-pourri” —

:D

Hoss


339 posted on 09/28/2014 11:08:30 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: ronnietherocket3
Where does the Bible say this and that this is the only Mechanism through which the Holy Spirit acts?

Could it be... that ELSIE really does have Unicorns?

340 posted on 09/28/2014 11:08:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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