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To: RetiredArmy; huldah1776
When that specific number is reached, when that last person is saved, then we are out of here, all gone home to be with our LORD. That is those that have accepted His free offer of Grace per Paul. That is a day I am waiting for. Our Blessed Hope. The appearance of our LORD and Savior, Jesus Christ.

This Feast of Trumpets or next.

Look up ! Yah'shua is coming for his congregation.

L'shana tovah !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
54 posted on 09/23/2014 11:23:53 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

They used to celebrate passover when the sun was in Aries (Ram/Lamb)
Now it is mostly celebrated when the sun is in Pisces (2 fish) because the earth has wobbled and Aries no longer holds the spring equinox like it did 1000s of years ago for at least Moses’ time. (The question is what was it for the Messiah’s time)

According to scripture (revelation 12) the Messiah was born on a New Moon Day when the sun clothed the virgin and the moon was under her feet..

That ‘vision’ occurs in a couple days...but if it occurred two thousand years ago, it is possible it was still the 6th month. (The Messiah’s life events match up to a 6th month birth on His calendar with New moons, Sabbaths and Feats occurring on specific milestones that Torah requires)

If Aries is the first month when historians say Passover occurred(Josephus/Philo) and the Ram/lamb is certainly an ordained constellation they would have been looking at, that would make the constellation Libra ( the scales ) the 7th month and not Virgo like it is today.

It is a little confusing but a simple understanding of the order of the constellations would see a shifting ... or the ‘age’ had changed..

Certainy a NT reader can see the significance of the two fish and the virgin bride being symbols of evangelism and the church.

But what if Jews are really off by a month today in their observances and they are still to observe Passover when the sun is in Aries?

That doesn’t happen at the equinox anymore, it is later April through mid may (there was a 2nd passover in Israel in May this year that did occur while the sun was ‘in Aries’ or while the sun was in the Ram/lamb)

Has the wobble affected harvest seasons where they are longer and stretch into mid November in Israel? I don’t know that..if anybody does, I am all ears..

Are they back out in the fields harvesting more than a month after celebrating the growing season’s ingathering a month earlier?

I am no farmer and have never been to Israel so I can’t answer these...

But considering the ignorance we have of the stars and how they too were for signs and appointed times and days and years like it states in Genesis 1, maybe some wise man can help out.

Israel will be celebrating the new year under a sign that was not the sign at the time of Moses.

It is the day described as the birth of the Messiah in Revelation 12.

They may be inadvertently celebrating their Messiah’s birth at the same time they reject Him, and essentially off by a month in their Day of Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles.

That would be divinely ordained but not sure in which direction..

Israel celebrating the Messiah without knowing it or Israel missing their true appointed times in these last days because they have neglected all of the timekeeping apparatus Moses, etc, used to tell time..

Regardless, most of Christendom will ignore the vision described in Revelation 12 and the appointed time it pointed to..
And that is a sad commentary on the bride...

They should not be ignorant of all things but have made up a completely fictcious birth day to counter the one found in Scripture..

‘Thief in the night’ comes to mind...


62 posted on 09/23/2014 1:24:43 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Trumpets were not just sounded at feast time. They were also sounded at the time of gathering in preparation of moving. Each sounding meant a different tribe got ready. The last trump was sounded when they were to move out.


80 posted on 09/23/2014 4:47:51 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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