Posted on 09/21/2014 10:09:50 AM PDT by wmfights
I wasn’t referring to the trinity, but I can see how you might have thought that I was.
I’m asking if your group, which has a name unfamiliar to me, is what one would consider to be a (1) Judaism one traditionally thinks about with genetic Jews predominantly the members/adherents/participant, or (2) a Judaism that is predominantly made up of non-genetic Jewish members/adherents/participants?
So, the thrust of my question has to do with the historic ethnic identity of the participants of your group.
No ethnic identity. Anyone can be B’nai Noach except for Jews.
1. You feel something of note happened in 312ad? Care to elaborate?
2. 3 gods? Reminds me of the saying it’s better to remain silent and have people assume you are stupid than open your mouth and confirm it.
Ephesians 2:19 says believing Gentiles are “fellow citizens” with believing Jews. Citizenship refers to belonging to a “nation” or “commonwealth”. What is the commonwealth that Gentiles were once alienated from but now they are part of in Christ?
Here’s a hint - dispensationalist’s don’t like the answer.
Can I prove “my Catholic tradition is true”
Hmm, I don’t know what Catholic tradition is. I assume you actually mean Apostolic or Sacred Tradition........I will let you prove it’s true.
How many canonical books are there in the New Testament? If you say 27, than you and I both believe in Sacred Tradition.
If you say 27, but reject Sacred Tradition as the basis for number, I invite you to tell me how the correct canon was arrived at without alluding to it.
The problem those that reject the “ Greco roman Latin church” have is, what happened to the Apostolic Church?
One can look at history and see a beautiful continuity between the Apostles and the Greco roman Latin church..........
On the other hand, those who come with a false gospel in these latter days and claim Christians should keep the seventh day sabbath, can not find any support in history that this was the Apostolic Faith. Where was this sabbath keeping “church” in the 2nd century? 3rd, 4th and 5th centuries?
Why not Jews?
You don’t know what happened in 312AD???
Rome, under Constantine, co-opted the B’nai Noach movement that they couldn’t crush and turned it into the Catholic Church!
http://churchmotherofgod.org/salvation-history/new-life-church-history/2354-the-establishment-of-the-imperial-church.html
Three Gods - The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost - also known as the Triune God. The concept of the Trinity comes from pagan sources. This is in direct opposition to what God taught Moses about the being only one God who isn’t divisible or corporeal. Why do you think Jews view Christians as polytheists?
Isa. 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa. 45:18
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Num. 23:19
God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
The Origin of the Trinity: From Paganism to Constantine
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/doctrine/The%20Origin%20Of%20the%20Trinity.htm
Because Jews are appointed to lead humanity back to God. The B’nai Noach follow their lead.
I guess Ignatius of Antioch didn’t get the Constantine memo, for more than 200 years prior to 312ad, he wrote “ where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church” . Maybe he could see the future and knew Constantine would co-opt the b’nai noach, right?
And Muslims say that Moses and Jesus were Muslims before they were Muslims!
Lol, you post an article from the Jehovah witnesses stating the Trinity is pagan........using opponents of CHristianity to attack Christian doctrine, not much credibility.
I note the author didn’t quote Ignatius of Antioch calling Jesus Christ God, I wonder why not?
The difference is Moses and Jesus never claimed to be muslim, whereas Ignatius testifies the Catholic Church was in existence in his lifetime, late 1st century, well before the Constantine started the Catholic Church fable will allow. Follow dan brown much?
The Muslims claim that for them.
Of course the B’nai Noach were attending Jewish synagogues to learn Torah from the rabbis. Where else would they have gone?
No churches existed at that time.
The Muslims are wrong and the Jehovah witnesses are wrong. And anyone claiming Constantine started the Catholic Church probably believes in the tooth fairy and ufo’s.
Name it and claim it; blab it and grab it.
Early 2nd century at most for the Church.
33ad for the Church..............been here ever since and will be here when Christ returns on the last day.
Uh, no. There weren’t any churches then - only synagogues and pagan temples of worship.
The Holy Spirit tells us different than you in Scripture.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
So I have a choice.
I can believe God through Scripture.
Or I can believe an anonymous internet poster who denies Scripture.
Hmmm.....
Decisions, decisions.......
I don’t consider the New Testament to be Scripture. That was something the gentiles made up to replace the Tanach.
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