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Fishwrap: Approve of “gay” sex or risk a shrinking, irrelevant Church.
WDTPRS ^ | 9/16/2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 09/16/2014 6:10:03 PM PDT by markomalley

I think we are going to see the National Schismatic Reporter (aka Fishwrap) lurch even farther to the left, even deeper into angry dissent now that they have to cope with and distinguish themselves with Crux.

I suspect Crux will wind up doing a better job of what Fishwrap has been doing.

Here is an example of angry edginess from Fishwrap. This ought bring in those readers!

Brian Cahill has a peevish piece in which he makes the claim that …

The Catholic church is on track to become a shrinking cult

Oh no! What will save us from this dire fate? Fishwap has an answer!

Let’s have a look.

Taking a break from his crusade against civil gay marriage, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone is establishing an Oratory of St. Philip Neri at Star of the Sea Parish in the city. [So, the theme has been introduced.]

[...]

But the Holy Spirit works in all sorts of strange and wonderful ways, and any effort to attract young adults — to keep them from leaving the church, should be praised, especially given the wholesale exodus of young Catholics over recent years. The Pew Research Center’s Religion and Public Life Project reports that four out of five Catholics who have left the church and haven’t joined another church did so before the age of 24.

One can point to an increasingly secular, materialistic culture as a factor in this exodus. But a closer look suggests that young Catholics are increasingly turned off by the attitudes and actions of some American bishops — the failure to address the child abuse scandal, the harsh opposition to civil gay marriage, the cluelessness of church teaching on contraception, and the refusal to consider women priests.

More recently, Catholic high school students, who can spot dishonesty and hypocrisy a mile away, are reacting with disillusion and disgust at how the church is treating some teachers in Catholic schools.

Bishop Michael Barber of Oakland, Calif., is attempting to coerce Catholic identity with a mandated morality pledge.

[...]

Cincinnati Archbishop Dennis Schnurr upheld the firing of an assistant principal who expressed support for civil gay marriage on his blog.

[...]

Cleveland Bishop Richard Lennon fired a teacher at a Catholic high school from her job when the diocese read the obituary of her mother’s death and discovered the teacher was a lesbian. How many thoughtful Catholic high school students will stick around in a church that is capable of that kind of behavior?

St. Paul-Minneapolis Archbishop John Nienstedt sent one of his priests to speak at a mandatory high school assembly just before Minnesota was to vote on an anti-gay-marriage constitutional amendment.

[...]

If our church is left in the hands of these bishops, [Those mean dumb meanies!] we are on track to become a shrinking, increasingly irrelevant cult [Fishwrap's future] — not a source of appeal for thoughtful Catholic high school students.

Yep. That’s a great idea! Let’s adjust the Church’s Magisterium to the view of high school students! We need a Magisterium of Sophomores!

Bottom line: The Pope should declare that every gender-distinction in the Bible and the Magisterium has been wrong all along and Bishops should stop teaching about sexual morality. We really must start saying that sticking what you have into any place you want is fine, especially when it comes to same-sex sex. Hey! Even better…. why not just approve it! That would make us even more relevant, and hip, right? I can see the beginning of the Dogmatic Constitution from Vatican III: Quae olim dedecora esse dixit Ecclesia, nunc ….


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To: markomalley

It’s turned out so well for the so-called Mainline Denominations(PCUSA, UCC, ECUSA, ELCA, etc.)/sarc


21 posted on 09/16/2014 7:57:51 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: markomalley

“the harsh opposition to civil gay marriage, the cluelessness of church teaching on contraception, and the refusal to consider women priests”

These young spoiled brats can always join the Episcopal Church and they’ll be quite happy.


22 posted on 09/16/2014 9:02:11 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: terycarl

That demonstrates just how brainwashed you are by the Roman Catholic Church. You couldn’t recognize the truth if it fell in your lap.


23 posted on 09/17/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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BTW, I guess you are unaware that the Protestant Reformation triggered a Catholic Reformation to address corruption in the RC. What was that all about?


24 posted on 09/17/2014 5:30:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t know, but some people seem to have issues with bringing some abstract subject matter into discussions from time to time.

I would note the following ironies about how the Reformation has evolved.

1) Protestations of the power of the Catholic Church, yet you have government-run protestant churches nowadays (Denmark and Finland’s Lutheran Churches), and the case of the Episcopal Church.

2) Protestations about the Catholic Church falling away, yet numerous other Protestant groups have their giving up man-woman marriage to attract new followers.

3) People protest the Catholic Church’s opposite-gender marriage policy when they have the option of joining another church. Most of these people also have little to no interest in religion at all, anyways.


25 posted on 09/17/2014 10:47:26 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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yet numerous other Protestant groups have their giving up man-woman marriage to attract new followers.

And some mainline Protestant churches seem to have given up their very belief in Jesus as Savior.

Crazy world nowadays.:-)

26 posted on 09/17/2014 10:58:33 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

If what you’re talking about is playing out the miracles then that’s been true in a number of churches, the Episcopal Church included, for nearly 30 years. I attended an Episcopal service some time ago and the minister said that Noah’s ark was a symbolic story, like a fable. I found that pretty tough to hear, then I read about Jesus mentioning the days of Noah, and I realize, wow! Someone is falling off the edge pretty far. But sadly enough, it is not going to win in the long run.


27 posted on 09/17/2014 2:09:54 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: markomalley
Catholic bishops are Catholic? And they expect their school staffers to be Catholic? Or at least not living in open defiance of Church teaching? O noes! Can’t have that.

Note to the students: A lot of Protestant schools hold their staff to very nearly equivalent codes of conduct. I know. I went to one.

The Onion needs to buy the Reporter and make it official.

28 posted on 09/17/2014 2:27:07 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Catholic doctrine and discipline may be walls; but they are the walls of a playground."--GKC)
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To: RoosterRedux
BTW, I guess you are unaware that the Protestant Reformation triggered a Catholic Reformation to address corruption in the RC. What was that all about?

well, actually it was more about semantics than anything else. The Catholic church changed NOTHING having to do with faith and morals...no changes whatsoever were EVER made in Catholic theology....methodoligy, perhaps, rituals, some maybe but not many....the Catholic church is very much the same today as she was when CHRIST personally founded her...

29 posted on 09/20/2014 7:09:43 PM PDT by terycarl
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TC...I love the Catholic Church to the extent Catholic believers love Jesus.

Some of them love the RC more than Jesus.

If you love Jesus, I love you and stand with you no matter what.

If you love the RC above Jesus...I pray for you to come clean.

But at the bottom line, Jesus loves you unconditionally...and I follow Him.

Ergo, I love you and will see you in the next world...the real world.

Love you.

30 posted on 09/20/2014 7:30:22 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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