Nobody who is saved would have the attitude that salvation is fire insurance, like those who are not born again like to portray.
And how do I know that people who think like that are not born again? Because nobody born again would have such a flippant attitude towards sin and salvation.
Born again believers are new creatures in Christ, have died to the flesh and have the Holy Spirit living in them.
It doesn’t mean they’re perfect, nor does it mean they will never sin, but when God puts His Holy Spirit in you, your thinking WILL change and God will not allow you to continue in a habitual lifestyle of sin.
People who are not saved simply do not understand how the saved view salvation and sin.
Your post 236: I did not say that.
Not in so many words, but the meaning is clear. Your post 112:Born again believers are new creatures in Christ, have died to the flesh and have the Holy Spirit living in them.
So again the question was Jimmy Swaggert living in the flesh when he cheated on his wife? You do understand that adultery is a "Fleshly sin"? How about Jim Bakker When he was committing adultery with Jessica Hahn was he living in the flesh? How about Jesse Jackson He has fathered at least one child outside of wedlock, was he living in the flesh.
Your comment from 112:but when God puts His Holy Spirit in you, your thinking WILL change and God will not allow you to continue in a habitual lifestyle of sin.Jim Bakker did a great job of swindling a lot of people. How did their thinking change? Pretty obvious their lifestyles certainly improved from their sin.
Your reading comprehension is sadly lacking.
Actually it is fine, it appears your memory is the thing that is lacking.
Like metmom says, unsaved people do not understand how God deals with sin...
God says people will pay now or pay later, but they will pay...And yet, they will not lose their salvation...
It doesn’t mean they’re perfect, nor does it mean they will never sin, but when God puts His Holy Spirit in you, your thinking WILL change and God will not allow you to continue in a habitual lifestyle of sin.
So look at your examples...Jim Baker lost his lucrative ministry, his wife and his freedom...But he did not lose God...God took him to the woodshed...
Same with Jimmy Swaggert...God does not send his children to hell...Nor will he allow his children to go to hell...We who are God's children know that...A pity you don't...
Apparently I missed quite the food fight. LOL