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To: reaganaut; grania
It is insane to think Jesus had children, Jesus was FULLY God, AND fully human, not one of us, but unique. There is no reason to believe he would have had children, but if He had he could not have been sinless.

Just considering the implications of such a thing, I wonder do those who think Jesus did have a human family imagine He passed on His sinlessness to His children???

170 posted on 09/14/2014 2:52:45 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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“And the two will become one flesh”.... If Jesus had been married, his whole being would be tainted by the sinful nature of his wife. “ There is none righteous, no, not one, for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.” According to this verse, even Jesus’ mother Mary was as much a sinner as us all,
My Catholic friends will say I’m blaspeming. Whatever... It seems all Christian denominations have quirks in which they think their way is the only way... or maybe I should say they are on the correct path to God and others are just mislead. Catholics seem to be exceptionally anal sometimes in these matters, (I honestly did not mean that as a pun, (in reference to a more serious problem in some Christian denominations.) I consider the Mormons as a “Romantic alternative” to Christianity. What with the lost tribes coming to the new world, starting or helping the ancient Mayan and Aztecs build pyramids with knowledge they received in Egypt. The golden plates the “angel” Maroni hid in the hill of Cummara? (Sp?) Joseph Smith burying his head in his hat as he mumbled prophetic utterances as “inspired” by the stones that were placed in the hat. Stones he claimed were the original “umman” and “thumman” again...sp? mentioned in the bible. How he was able to find them is anyone’s guess. The different “levels” of heaven. The fact they can pro - create in heaven when my Bible says “In heaven they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels”. It’s God’s duty to search people’s hearts, and not for me to determine who will, or who will not be allowed into heaven. I have to figure out for myself what IS the truth about God and what this life is all about. “Work out you OWN salvation with fear and trembling”. I know I’m all over the place here. But this thread has been one of the most informative and enlightening ones for me in a long time. One day after working hard on some underwater warfare testing in which a couple of us almost died. One, a Mormon buddy of mine who had the shakes bad, who obviously did not drink, but on this occasion I persuaded him to have a beer to help calm him down. I was amazed he actually drank it.... then another.. After three he started telling me things I know he probably should not be talking about. Although I felt a bit guilty, I couldn’t pass up this rare glimpse into his faith, so asked questions. He talked about how Jesus WAS Satan’s “twin” brother, that they were co- created by God. That Jesus was one of the Guardian cherubs of God. That he was NOT part of the Godhead (trinity). That God himself had a wife in heaven that he continually had sex with. Yes, you heard me right (Sorry Lord, I don’t mean to be crude, just trying to explain in a “toned?” down way what was said) and I won’t even get into the significance of the magical symbols embroidered on young women’s underwear. I was kind of interested in learning more about their religion before hearing this far out stuff. If they can’t be right up front and tell people the truth in ALL circumstances about their faith, then they are hiding something, and to me that is the same as lying. And Satan is the father of lies. Some of what he said was down right spooky. I’m amazed they are able to suppress some of these things. And he was an elder not just a casual church goer, working his way up to some “third?” level. I know many Mormon people. They are kind, but distant. They live clean and healthy lifestyles. They definitely have a superiority complex as do some Christian denominations. Sorry for the windy post...it’s been a while. Thanks to Everyone who posted on this thread. I really did learn a lot and stand open to any criticism, advice, or down right a** ripping us FReepers so often want to do to each other. People say FR has changed...maybe a little for the worse but more for the better. I remember back in 96? When the Monica Lewinsky thing broke and Willy was in deep doo, there was some of the same engaging, and often volatile back and forth then,4 that we see today on FR. That’s what makes this site the greatest.


259 posted on 09/16/2014 7:12:43 PM PDT by Rainwaves (Rianwaves)
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