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To: cloudmountain; defconw
Cloudmountain, I think "detachment" can be understood in several differenct senses, and one must distinguish one from the other. On the one had, Jesus said (Luke 14:26-27):

"Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not carry the cross and follow me cannot be my disciple."

He didn't mean literally "hate" (in the sense of "hostility and loathing) or even "ignore" or "be indifferent to," but He did mean that one should prefer the way of Christ to all things, even prefer it to this life itself.

If one had to choose between Christ and one's father's or mother's wishes, or one's spouse's or childrens' wishes, or the clear demands of our own "reasonable" self-interest --- we should go with Christ and leave the rest behind.

So I would say "detachment" in the sense of a cold, hands-off attitude toward all things, is bad; but "detachment" in the sense of putting Christ, always, radically first, is good.

Does that make sense?

How much we want to smooth the edges off of this one! It is indeed a hard saying. One of the hardest!

11 posted on 09/12/2014 7:23:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (To the hard of hearing you shout, and for the almost-blind you draw large and startling figures..)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I see where you are coming from and that is what I was thinking. I think how often I could pray intead of play for instance.


15 posted on 09/12/2014 8:02:42 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
So I would say "detachment" in the sense of a cold, hands-off attitude toward all things, is bad; but "detachment" in the sense of putting Christ, always, radically first, is good.
Does that make sense?
How much we want to smooth the edges off of this one! It is indeed a hard saying. One of the hardest!

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Wikipedia:
1. Emotional detachment, in psychology, refers to "inability to connect" or "mental assertiveness"
2. Detachment (philosophy), a philosophical state

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SOME, OCCASIONAL detachment is needed in this world or we would go crazy.
Also detachment from unsavory friends or people who lead us to do bad is NECESSARY. Sometimes the latter detachment is from some family and/or friends and may have NOTHING to do with the Lord.

Putting Christ first is always good but Christ would be the FIRST to say "help each other" and that might mean having to deal with those from whom we would detach ourselves with all due speed.
It's MOST unpleasant to have to deal with the down and out, drunks, addicts, over-eaters, manipulators, jerks, fools and aholes, but they may be the ones who need us the most. THEY may be our God-chosen path to the Lord.

In other words, detachment isn't one or the other. We need our good Lord to help us discern how we can follow the straight and narrow and how we can help our fellow human beings. Detachment from THEM may not be what the good Lord wants us to do.

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You ALWAYS make sense, Mrs. Don-o.
Of course, maybe I wouldn't want to cross you before you had your first cup of coffee in the morning. :o)

32 posted on 09/12/2014 3:18:54 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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