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To: MDLION; Iscool

>>One early dispute in the Church took place when John was still alive. They asked him to settle the dispute. He told them to go to the fourth pope, Pope Clement I in Rome. Clement ruled and the matter was settled.<<

That claim is not scripturally true and not even historically true according to research in the article here; http://www.cogwriter.com/clement.htm


1,096 posted on 09/19/2014 10:24:15 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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CB, I do not think any of these people know how to research anything before posting or they believe anything they are told.


1,097 posted on 09/19/2014 10:28:55 AM PDT by MamaB
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That claim is not scripturally true and not even historically true according to research in the article here; http://www.cogwriter.com/clement.htm

It seemed clear to me in the first few paragraphs...

I implore Euodia and I implore Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life (Philippians 4:2-3).

They are claiming Clement was a disciple of Peter...Peter was long gone preaching to the circumcision...Clement would have been hanging with that group...

And 2, if there was going to be a pope out of Paul's group preaching to the Gentiles, it most certainly would have been Timothy, not Clement...

This next one really got me...

4. CLEMENT I, ST. (88-97)...He was among the first baptized by St. Peter...Clement was the one to introduce the liturgical vestments into the sacred functions and the use of the word Amen. He appointed seven notaries, one for each ecclesiastical area of Rome, to edit and file all information regarding martyred Christians...He can be considered the first pope to have abdicated (Lopes A. The Popes: The lives of the pontiffs through 2000 years of history. Futura Edizoni, Roma, 1997, p. 2).

Oh ya brother, that's it...

Luk_20:46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

Paul's helper Clement came up with the idea and design for fancy long robes and the highest seats in the synagogues...Ya, Paul tells us all about those guys like 'this' Clement...

1,107 posted on 09/19/2014 1:10:51 PM PDT by Iscool
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