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To: MamaB

“Catholics back then did not want it in the hands of ordinary people which is very wrong”

Before the printing press, Bibles had to be written out by hand. Do you know how long it took to write one Bible? Of course the Church had the few Bibles, they didn’t want them destroyed.

“We would still have it.”

How would we have the four Gospels, edited down from 50, and the 72 (or 66) books of the New Testament, edited down from about 400, if the early Church did not gather together in prayer and ask the Holy Spirit to guide them to the canon of the Bible?


1,070 posted on 09/19/2014 7:45:28 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: MDLION

They murdered people to make sure the ordinary people could not have their own Bible. That is wrong. They did not want people to realize the lies they were being told. When I was doing research, people were burned to death, were beheaded, etc. Don’t you find that disgusting? I do.


1,071 posted on 09/19/2014 8:03:57 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: MDLION; MamaB
Catholics prohibited from owning Scripture

COUNCIL OF TOULOUSE - 1229 A.D Canon 14. We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; unless anyone from motive of devotion should wish to have the Psalter or the Breviary for divine offices or the hours of the blessed Virgin; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.

Source: Heresy and Authority in Medieval Europe, Edited with an introduction by Edward Peters, Scolar Press, London, copyright 1980 by Edward Peters, ISBN 0-85967-621-8, pp. 194-195, citing S. R. Maitland, Facts and Documents [illustrative of the history, doctrine and rites, of the ancient Albigenses & Waldenses], London, Rivington, 1832, pp. 192-194.

The Council of Tarragona of 1234, in its second canon:

“No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned lest, be he a cleric or a layman, he be suspected until he is cleared of all suspicion.” (-D. Lortsch, Historie de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.)

Suspicion?! Suspicion of what or for what?

There's not one indicator that the reason for not owning Scripture was out of concern for it's safe keeping or it's rarity.

1,072 posted on 09/19/2014 8:09:01 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: MDLION
How would we have the four Gospels, edited down from 50, and the 72 (or 66) books of the New Testament, edited down from about 400, if the early Church did not gather together in prayer and ask the Holy Spirit to guide them to the canon of the Bible?

How is it that they MISSED putting in the Scripture that was mentioned in Matthew 2:23?

1,087 posted on 09/19/2014 9:43:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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