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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It isn’t a question of whether Scripture is or is not a source of revealed truth. Of course it is.

Which came first, the Church, or the New Testament?

Between the Church and the New Testament: Which did Jesus found, and which did he never mention?


43 posted on 09/12/2014 12:16:44 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

“It isn’t a question of whether Scripture is or is not a source of revealed truth. Of course it is.”

It is the ONLY source of revealed and recorded truth. It isn’t one of many. It is the only one God-breathed. Don’t minimize it.

“Which came first, the Church, or the New Testament?”

Again, you present a false choice with a false presupposition. Your post’s unspoken presupposition is that whatever came first is superior or more authoritative. This is a false presupposition.

God’s written revelation predates the church by thousands of years. Messiah is foretold thousands of years before the church. God was busy at work (as I pointed out in 175 verses of Psalm 119) at providing an authoritative and inspired Word from Him thousands of years before Christ physically walked the earth.

‘Between the Church and the New Testament: Which did Jesus found, and which did he never mention?’

Jesus is the Word of God. He pre-existed for all eternity. God’s Word is eternal.

There is no requirement in the Scriptures that Christ “mention” the new testament for the New Testament to be inspired or authoritative.

Your post confuses “founding” with inspired and authoritative.

Really, your post is a collection of false arguments that defy logic.

I will also point out here that your statement has a third logical fallacy imbedded as a presupposition. WE call it the “new testament”, but that phrase to describe the non-Hebrew inspired Scriptures is not found inside the inspired writings. It is a convenience we use - not different than verse numbers or chapters or page numbers. Your post presumes that Christ never mentioning the New Testament means anything. It means nothing. It was written in time after His ascension. It was in the heart of God from all eternity.

Christ didn’t have to “found” the New Testament. He is the Word of God.

At times like this, I wonder what they teach in schools and catechisms these days.


44 posted on 09/12/2014 1:19:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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