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To: daniel1212
What you may detect is one thing, but what the article first refers is the VSA as a whole, as in "the actual contents can stand on their own," which 'span 12 centuries" in the portion you posted. Which infers these as a whole are no longer secret - "Not open or public; kept private or not revealed" (WordWeb) - but which in fact it turns out not to be the case, only that " there is transparency around many items known to be housed there," and "the sitting pope decides when to expand the archives," and thus Francis is considering when to open the full archives of Pope Pius XII.

It means the archives are open to serious scholars doing research but not every Tom, Dick and Harry. Scholars such as David Kertzer, mentioned in the article, whose recent book is critical of the Church's relationship with Mussolini and who "spent years researching in the Secret Archives"(quote). Even he says that "the Secret Archives are staffed by professionals, and “there’s an appreciation of serious historical scholarship.” (quote). That's where the problem lies; with the word "serious". The non-serious are excluded which displeases a lot of people but it doesn't appear to have been a problem for Kertzer.

Thus the restrictions can mean such things as that the VSA "are surrounded with their own controversy over what they might show about the Church's diplomatic conduct in World War II, and whether Pope Pius XII did too little to protest the Holocaust. Debate has been raging since an International Catholic-Jewish Historical Commission suspended its activities in 2000 after requests by panel members for unrestricted access to the archives were turned down."

The source for the serious history student; USA Today. Simple message for the hoi polloi...the Vatican is hiding something.

It's useful to know that it was the Vatican which appointed this Commission to look into this issue. How's that for secrecy? Its preliminary report is HERE. Secondly, the Vatican baulked at allowing unlimited access to the Archives because the Commission became mired in recriminations. Press releases were made without the approval of Catholic members, reports were leaked to the press and Commission work was misrepresented. It was the Vatican's position that since such poor use had been made of existing Archive material, no more would be provided and the Commission disbanded

Debate will always rage. The conviction that the Church is hiding something will never die, no matter what. If incriminating evidence can not be found the debate will simply shift to whether the archives are complete and whether material has been destroyed or altered.

In that regard, a Church so preoccupied with "secrecy" and hiding the truth from the eyes of disinterested and scholarly truth seekers, is difficult to reconcile with a Church determined to retain all this documentation in the first place. "Secrecy" would be much better served by simply destroying all the evidence. A real commitment to "secrecy" over the papacy of Pius XII would have resulted in these documents going through the shredder. Retaining vast historical records is strange behavior for miscreants determined to hide the truth.

And considering how extensive the archives are, to convey there is nothing hidden would be quite a statement:

Nobody is making this statement since it is ambiguous. "Hidden" may mean deliberately concealed or it may mean not thoroughly cataloged or misplaced. It may mean hidden from you or hidden from everyone.

Even if so, the devil is in the details of what "restricted" means, but this can indeed be understandable

No, the devil is in the details of what "secret" means. You are suggesting that anything less than full access to the entire archives by anyone who wants it at any time is synonymous with "secrecy".

If that's "secret", then so is the British Museum.

46 posted on 09/05/2014 10:02:35 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
It means the archives are open to serious scholars doing research but not every Tom, Dick and Harry.

How can you say that when it is not true, only that " there is transparency around many items known to be housed there," and "the sitting pope decides when to expand the archives," and thus Francis is considering when to open the full archives of Pope Pius XII?

Denying that only serves to evidence more of the usual "protect the franchise at any cost" often evidenced by RCs, while i am not even objecting to the restrictions here.

47 posted on 09/06/2014 6:18:55 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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