No, no, not like those guys. It the central teaching of the Church. You keep confusing teaching from individual sin which is for God to forgive or offend. Picking up stuff from noted anti-Catholic websites doesn’t help you. There are any number of Protestant from martin Luther down who have been unrepentant scoundrels and adulterers and some pastors even murderers.
Ha ha (I found this humorous)
By pointing out TRUE FACTS FROM HISTORY are found on 'noted anti-Catholic websites' doesn’t help you merely wave away the SINS of the MOST POWERFUL men in their own little world.
And how was Luther an impenitent adulterer and murderer except in dissent from Rome, and how are popes cleared from being manifestly impenitent scoundrels and adulterers and even murderers?
Like these guys?
Top 10 Most Wicked Popes
http://listverse.com/2007/08/17/top-10-most-wicked-popes/
1. Liberius, reigned 352-66 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
2. Honorius I, reigned 625-638 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
3. Stephen VI, reigned 896-89 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
4. John XII, reigned 955-964 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
5. Benedict IX, reigned 1032-1048 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
6. Boniface VIII, reigned 1294-1303 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
7. Urban VI, reigned 1378-1389 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
8. Alexander VI, reigned 1492-1503 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
9. Leo X, reigned 1513-1521 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
10. Clement VII, reigned 1523-1524 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
Top 10 Worst Popes in History
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-popes-in-history.php
1. Pope Alexander VI (1431 – 1503)
2. Pope John XII (c. 937 – 964)
3. Pope Benedict IX (c. 1012 – 1065/85)
4. Pope Sergius III (? – 911)
5. Pope Stephen VI (? – 897)
6. Pope Julius III (1487 – 1555)
7. Pope Urban II (ca. 1035 – 1099)
8. Pope Clement VI (1291 – 1352)
9. Pope Leo X (1475 – 1521)
10. Pope Boniface VIII (c. 1235 – 1303)
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Catholic church history is replete with murderers, adulterers, and scoundrels.
Why do they get a pass with *They're just sinners like the rest of us*? when you guys expect "any number of Protestant from martin Luther down" to live lives as pure as Jesus in order to validate their message.
If the lifestyle of the church leaders is the criteria for determining that, the Catholic church is in WAY bigger trouble than any of those Protestant pastors from Luther on down.
It condemns Catholicism and the Catholic church far more strongly because those who Catholics consider Protestant church leaders were never elected by their churches and put into positions of authority by the church. They are just considered church leaders by Catholics who simply cannot conceive of a church without a figurehead to follow.
Catholics are so conditioned to following men that it is beyond their comprehension that others do not do the same.
Be it known, for the record, I do NOT follow Luther, or Calvin, nor any other man in a leadership position within any church. I follow Jesus Christ alone.
If their views and theology happen to agree with mine, it's simply because they use the Bible for the basis of their beliefs. It is NOT because I follow their teachings.