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Did the historical Jesus exist? A growing number of scholars don’t think so
Jobrny ^ | August 30, 2014 | Valerie Tarico

Posted on 08/31/2014 8:18:05 PM PDT by Mean Daddy

Most antiquities scholars think that the New Testament gospels are “mythologized history.” In other words, they think that around the start of the first century a controversial Jewish rabbi named Yeshua ben Yosef gathered a following and his life and teachings provided the seed that grew into Christianity.

At the same time, these scholars acknowledge that many Bible stories like the virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, and women at the tomb borrow and rework mythic themes that were common in the Ancient Near East, much the way that screenwriters base new movies on old familiar tropes or plot elements. In this view, a “historical Jesus” became mythologized.

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TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: academicbias; antichristian; antichristscholars; antitheism; deniers; godgap; historicaljesus; jesus; jesuschrist; mythmaking; religiousleft; revisionisthistory; skeptics
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I post this not because I agree, rather to see what studied members think.
1 posted on 08/31/2014 8:18:05 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Mean Daddy

It’s up to 3 scholars now?


2 posted on 08/31/2014 8:19:24 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mean Daddy

So. All those martyrs died, not just for a fraud, but for a fake fraud, to preserve a fake, fraudulent fiction? In a million years, that’s not gonna happen.
People tend to say, at the point of death, “OK, ya got me. What tipped ya off?”


3 posted on 08/31/2014 8:20:35 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Sure, they can try and explain away Jesus.

But try to explain why prophecy continues to unfold as foretold in the Bible?


4 posted on 08/31/2014 8:21:13 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Mean Daddy

This is old old same ol’ stuff.


5 posted on 08/31/2014 8:21:22 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Mean Daddy

“Did the historical Jesus exist? A growing number of scholars don’t think so”

Title should read.....

“Does the historical Jesus still exist? A growing number of scholars think so!!!”


6 posted on 08/31/2014 8:21:23 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Mean Daddy

Meanwhile a person like Homer, of which there is no direct evidence he was an actual person, is accepted to have been a real person who lived around 800 BC by the vast majority of scholars.


7 posted on 08/31/2014 8:22:02 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Migraine

That’s worth repeating. I often say that when someone says it wasn’t real. I don’t think men would of been lining up to die for a known fraud.


8 posted on 08/31/2014 8:22:19 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Mean Daddy

I give the same answer to this every time I’m asked: if you want to know, ask Him and He’ll tell you.


9 posted on 08/31/2014 8:22:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mean Daddy

When they meet Him, they’ll know.


10 posted on 08/31/2014 8:22:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Wonder if those scholarly degrees will carry the day at the Judgment Seat? You know, when asked to show if you believed and this crew will show up with their peer-reviewed published papers. Faith in general and Christianity specifically, is not consensus process.


11 posted on 08/31/2014 8:23:07 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Mean Daddy

most? more settled science ala gobal climate change evidently...

asI understand it there are a number of Jewish Historians who would differ with.....”most”

I could go on...


12 posted on 08/31/2014 8:23:20 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Mean Daddy

There are references to Jesus by Tacitus and Pliny.


14 posted on 08/31/2014 8:25:04 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Mean Daddy

Uh huh. Yea. Right.


15 posted on 08/31/2014 8:26:43 PM PDT by cyclotic (Join America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Mean Daddy
Most antiquities scholars are code words for non-Christians who would not believe no matter what the evidence said.
16 posted on 08/31/2014 8:27:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Mean Daddy
and these learned Scholars are??? feh...
17 posted on 08/31/2014 8:27:51 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Mean Daddy

Perhaps the “scholars” aren’t as bright as they suppose?


18 posted on 08/31/2014 8:27:59 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm tired of people not recognizing sarcasm!)
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To: Mean Daddy

Flavius Josephis the Roman historian writing in the first century within a generation of the crucifixion:
In Rome, in the year 93, Josephus published his lengthy history of the Jews. While discussing the period in which the Jews of Judaea were governed by the Roman procurator Pontius Pilate, Josephus included the following account:

About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Messiah. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.
- Jewish Antiquities, 18.3.3 §63


19 posted on 08/31/2014 8:29:02 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: Mean Daddy

No extant examples of Shakespeare manuscripts exist. Did Shakespeare exist? What of Euclid? Typical secular denial of Yashua. There’s more proof of His existence than other historical figures.


20 posted on 08/31/2014 8:31:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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