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To: BlackElk

You argument is ridiculous. EENS obviously cannot precede the foundation of the Holy Catholic Church, the one and only Church founded by Jesus Christ. By your silly logic Adam and Eve aren’t saints because they weren’t Jews or Catholics.

As far as the Jews “covenant” being eternal:
If you ever paid one iota of attention to the Word’s of the Consecration, at every Catholic Mass, you would have heard, “ For this is the Chalice of My Blood of the New and Eternal Testament...”

Operative words in this argument being “New” and “Eternal”; as opposed to your false supposition that “old” covenants are somehow automatically “eternal”.

P.S. Upon Christ’s death on the Cross, the curtain in the Jewish temple was rent in two, from top to bottom, the sky darkened and the earth quaked. Despite that, you appear be convinced that no covenant(s) with the Jews was/were ever broken?

Finally, here is quote from St. Cypian; he defeats your argument quite quickly and succinctly:
“If any one outside Noah’s ark could find safety, then also will one outside the Church find salvation.”

EENS is dogma. He who denies dogma is a heretic. This obviously applies to all Catholics and you, if you are indeed one.

You and Pope Francis can continue to don yamakas and light menorahs in Jewish temples but neither of you is doing them any help in attaining eternal salvation.

Your feeble distractions of bringing up Fr. Feeney, Bishop Williamson, SSPX, etc, which have nothing to do with the posted article, are quite laughable. I have no attachment to any of the above.

If they are your daytime terrors, I doubt you get much sleep.


196 posted on 09/15/2014 6:06:54 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The question before the house is not whether Jesus Christ’s New Covenant with Catholicism is eternal. It obviously is. The question was as to supercessionist theory that the New and Eternal Covenant replaced the Covenant with Abraham. It did not. The Covenant with Abraham applies only to Jews but is always available to the Jews. As much as that may disturb the equilibrium of those who resent Jews while claiming to worship a Jew. Of course, Jews may convert and be baptized and be covered by the New and Eternal Covenant.


199 posted on 09/15/2014 9:15:14 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Roast 'em Danno!)
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To: ebb tide

At the consecration in Masses I generally attend, the priest says something to the effect of: “Hic est enim calix Sanguinis Meam...” etc.


200 posted on 09/15/2014 9:23:36 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Roast 'em Danno!)
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