You've got to be kidding! A devil's advocate would have had a field day with that one speech. But wait; wasn't it JPII himself who abolished the role of devil's advocate in his new and improved "saint factory"?
Posted on 08/29/2014 1:14:22 PM PDT by NYer
“Why?”
Why what?
“Do you think God rejected St John Paul II’s request?”
It doesn’t matter in either case. God does whatever He wants.
“If so, why did Francis declare the man a saint?”
Francis did what he did because he - and those assigned to John Paul’s case - judged John Paul II to have shown sufficient proof of sanctity.
“Maybe not yet; but it’s already affected James Foley.”
Not even remotely. Islamic terrorists existed before John Paul II became Pope. What they did to Foley had absolutely nothing to do with any decision ever made by John Paul II.
James foley put himself in harms way, in a foreign country. I feel bad for his family, but he is no different than any other x-pat that gets themselves murdered overseas .
I know that is not a popular view, but he did not work for our government.
You've got to be kidding! A devil's advocate would have had a field day with that one speech. But wait; wasn't it JPII himself who abolished the role of devil's advocate in his new and improved "saint factory"?
I’m not disagreeing with any one of your points. I’m merely stating, John Paul II did not do one thing to warn Christians of the evil Muslim cult; he actually worshipped with them within their mosques.
Nor did John Paul II ever encourage his muslim “brothers” that conversion to the Catholic religion was essential for their salvation.
And Jews existed before Jesus Christ became incarnate. What's you're point?
“Asking St. John the Baptist to protect Islam is proof of sanctity?”
Did I claim it was? If I didn’t claim it was, but you are suggesting with that leading question that I did, is that a fair or intellectually honest tactic on your part?
“You’ve got to be kidding! A devil’s advocate would have had a field day with that one speech.”
Well, apparently not.
“But wait; wasn’t it JPII himself who abolished the role of devil’s advocate in his new and improved “saint factory”?”
John Paul II revised the canonization process and that included reducing the role of the Devil’s Advocate. Remember, for about half of all Church history there was no centralized canonization process and no Devil’s Advocate. Both are innovations.
“And Jews existed before Jesus Christ became incarnate. What’s you’re point?”
My point was clear. If you have difficulty understanding it, the problem lies with you.
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