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That's just it, I'm not the one insisting those seven books belong as part of the Holy Spirit inspired Scriptures. You don't seem to get it that those books were NEVER part of the Old Testament, they didn't come from God, they were NOT Divine revelation, as ALL the documentation I have given to you demonstrates. Do you not bother to read even the rebuttals in this thread?

It wasn't until Trent in the sixteenth century that the Catholic church even dogmatically declared them canonical, so who was in error about those books before then? They were NOT recognized as inspired because they DID contain errors

Ever hear of a little thing called the Septuagint?

So when you say NEVER, you should actually be saying always.

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Ever hear of a little thing called the Septuagint? So when you say NEVER, you should actually be saying always.

Yes, I have heard of it, but have you??? Do you somehow imagine an Alexandrian instigated translation of the Hebrew Old Testament Scriptures into Greek at all proves the Apocryphal books are inspired? You DO realize, don't you, that those books were ALREADY in the Greek language, were NEVER part of the Hebrew canon and there is proof that they were ADDED long after the Septuagint was completed??? We can learn that:

In addition to all the books of the Hebrew canon, the Septuagint under Christian auspices separated the minor prophets and some other books and added the extra books known to Protestants and Jews as apocryphal and to Roman Catholics as deuterocanonical. The Hebrew canon has three divisions: the Torah (Law), the Neviʾim (Prophets), and the Ketuvim (Writings). The Septuagint has four: law, history, poetry, and prophets, with the books of the Apocrypha inserted where appropriate. This division has continued in the Western church in most modern Bible translations, except that in Protestant versions the Apocrypha are either omitted or grouped separately. (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/535154/Septuagint)

Your biggest problem with trying to assert canonicity of the Apocryphal books based on their presence in the Septuagint is the fact that not all of the books supposedly in the Septuagint were nor are part of the canon today. From http://www.truthnet.org/Bible-Origins/6_The_Apocrypha_The_Septugint/index.htm:

Since Catholics consider these books canon, therefore they do not call them Apocrypha but deuterocanonical, meaning later canon. The Council of Trent in 1546, declared the Apocrypha as canon, except for 3 Esdras, 4 Esdras and the Prayer of Manasseh which they call apocryphal. In the Catholic Bible, these additional writings within the books themselves, for example, “Susana” becomes Daniel 13, and “Bel and the Dragon” becomes Daniel 14, while the Protestant Bible only has 12 chapters to the book of Daniel.

When referring to the Old Testament, there are four classes of literature.

Books accepted by all- Homologoumena
Books disputed by some- Antilegomena
Books rejected by all- Pseudepigrapha
Books accepted by some- Apocrypha