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To: af_vet_1981

Historically the Gentiles took over the churches and all our history is replete with wars of a religious nature. The Jews were persecuted and slaughtered, for being Jews.


boy oh boy, where to start. first of all, there are no churches, this is the Church.
second of all, the Gentiles didn’t “take over” anything, in Christ we are all one, there is no Greek, there is no Jew.

here is a test for you, what did Jesus say in John 8 would happen to any Jew that did not believe he was the Messiah?


94 posted on 08/31/2014 6:32:17 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
boy oh boy, where to start. first of all, there are no churches, this is the Church.

That is odd. I read the NT and see all these books addressed to specific churches. I then find John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

About those 30,000 or so denonimations, sects, and churches, are they all the Church too ?

In any event there were historical churches that were primarily composed of male and female Jews, and which were effectively taken over by male and female Gentiles, slave and free. Of course in one's particular church they may not believe in male and female anymore after reading what Paul wrote and so have unisex restrooms ... and they may not have any children at their masses because there are no women left in the churches ...

here is a test for you, what did Jesus say in John 8 would happen to any Jew that did not believe he was the Messiah?He didn't. He was speaking to specific Jews, specific Pharisees These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come. 21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.

Notice he also said to these who did not receive his words, I know that ye are Abraham's seed. So we have Jews who are Abraham's seed, according to the word of the LORD, and do not believe Jesus' testimony at that time, and yes he spoke directly to them and told them they would die in their sins if they did not believe the Father had sent him.

101 posted on 08/31/2014 8:13:02 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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