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Archbishop of Mosul: "I have lost my Diocese to Islam - You in the West...
Rorate Caeli ^ | 8/17/14 | New Catholic

Posted on 08/17/2014 12:19:31 PM PDT by BlatherNaut

Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future. I lost my diocese. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. But my community is still alive.

Please, try to understand us. Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.

Archbishop Amel Nona Chaldean Catholic Archeparch of Mosul, now exiled in Erbil


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; civilization; demography; immigration; iraq; isil; isis; islam; jihad; mosul; sharia; westernciv; westerncivilization; wot
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To: BlatherNaut

global jihad bumpus ad summum


61 posted on 08/17/2014 7:41:40 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: BlatherNaut; All
August 9, 2014. The young ask for guns. The elderly approve. "Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future," says Amel Nona, 47, Chaldean archbishop of Mosul exiled in Erbil. The message is unequivocal: the only way to end the Christian exodus from the places that witnessed its origins in the pre-Islamic age is to respond to violence with violence, to force with force. Nona is a wounded, pain-stricken man, but not resigned.

"I lost my diocese. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. But my community is still alive." He is very glad to meet Western media.

"Please, try to understand us," he exclaims. "Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal," Archbishop Amel Nona continues, "but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home."

62 posted on 08/17/2014 8:37:11 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Since the French, Spanish, Portuguese, British and Dutch were mega-colonizers, they are NOW paying the price.

Notice who weren't the colonizers: Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Scandinavia, eastern Europe. They have their own problems today, but Asians, Africans, Muslims, etc., AREN'T some of them.

63 posted on 08/17/2014 8:55:26 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Scandinavia, eastern Europe.

Italy has Big Time problems and they did have African colonies.

64 posted on 08/17/2014 8:58:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Italy has Big Time problems and they did have African colonies.

True, HOWEVER,
1. the "Italian" influence just made Khaddafi a well-dressed despot. Libya is/was/always will be a mess. Way too tribal. The Italians just gave them better food and much prettier ... everything.

2. Italy will ALWAYS have huge problems because their governments always have been, are and always will be MEGA-corrupt. The Africans couldn't teach THEM anything about government corruption.

I LOVE Italy! Been there a dozen times, bought OODLES of silk everything, gorgeous shoes, purses...and oh my, is their gelato to DIE for.

My favorite was the limone gelato. WOW!!

65 posted on 08/17/2014 9:05:43 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I was a bit disappointed in Italy. Now Tuscany is beautiful. But the cities I found a bit dirty and full of graffiti.


66 posted on 08/17/2014 9:07:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
I was a bit disappointed in Italy. Now Tuscany is beautiful. But the cities I found a bit dirty and full of graffiti.

YEP, you nailed it.

I STILL love it!

67 posted on 08/17/2014 9:09:53 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: OpusatFR

Meanwhile in England the most popular name for new born boys is Mohammad. I kid you not.


68 posted on 08/17/2014 9:44:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Rome2000

For at least a while, Obama attended a madrassa in his Indonesian days. I think his first school was actually a Catholic school run primarily for the children of Europeans or other non-Indonesians, but his parents (Soetero Sr. was still around) took him out and sent him to a madrassa instead, and he was actually even listed as Muslim on the registration for the Catholic school to which they originally sent him.


69 posted on 08/18/2014 12:28:15 AM PDT by livius
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To: cloudmountain

“The CRUSADES tried to stop religion/Islam with the “sword.” It didn’t work, did it?”

Good morning, Troll. Well, I see you’re wrong about this, too.

The only reason that the muzzies didn’t march all the way to Ireland is that they were stopped by the sword. Nothing but the sword will avail.


70 posted on 08/18/2014 6:00:45 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Matthew: 26:52
Jesus' Betrayal and Arrest

And behold, one of those who were with Jesus reached and drew out his sword, and struck the slave of the high priest and cut off his ear.
Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.

71 posted on 08/18/2014 6:56:57 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Muslims are a BIG problem in Sweden and other parts of Scandinavia.

Turks are a significant ethnic group inside Germany.

This isn’t about colonial payback. This is invasion pure and simple.


72 posted on 08/18/2014 7:04:43 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
Muslims are a BIG problem in Sweden and other parts of Scandinavia.
Turks are a significant ethnic group inside Germany.
This isn’t about colonial payback. This is invasion pure and simple.

No question about that.

Then WHY do these countries let them in?
If those folks make trouble: THROW THEM OUT.
Why put up with their crud?
They are behaving like DOORMAT nations.

They OUGHT to do what those troublemakers understand:
Option A: THROW THEM OUT.
Option B: Gefängnis, Fängelse, Cezaevi for a l-o-n-g time.

73 posted on 08/18/2014 7:12:41 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

The UK, Sweden, Denmark, France and others are pushing back and changing or have already changed their immigration policies. More needs to be done.

Western Europe and USA-Canada have allowed a Muslim beachhead to establish itself because of naivete and foolishness. People are waking up.

A background reading of the life and importance of Mohammed reveals that today’s Muslim followers have described Mohammed as a force of socialism, a politics of redistribution. This is undoubtedly why it has caught hold in Indonesia and parts of Africa and why it is difficult to remove it from its entrenchment among those in the lower educated ranks.


74 posted on 08/18/2014 7:58:38 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
A background reading of the life and importance of Mohammed reveals that today’s Muslim followers have described Mohammed as a force of socialism, a politics of redistribution. This is undoubtedly why it has caught hold in Indonesia and parts of Africa and why it is difficult to remove it from its entrenchment among those in the lower educated ranks.

Hah, hindsight is always 20-20, isn't it?

The Muslims I knew well in Saudi Arabia (my boss and the 30 workers there in the office) NEVER spoke about their faith. They talked about other stuff.
One day they were all talking and talking and talking at great depth and they kept mentioning the word "sayareet." Afterwards I asked my boss what the discussion was about.

The men were talking about their 18-year-old sons who DIDN'T want to go to school or get a job. They just wanted to drive around in the CARS ["sayareet"] and visit their friends.
I laughed and said that some of our own 18-year-old men wanted to do the same.

Those working-class Saudi men knew about socialism like I know about quantum physics.

75 posted on 08/18/2014 6:35:01 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Fifteen of the nineteen 911 suicide bombers were Saudis; give it a rest about how “good” they are. Muslims are taught to lie to us “infidels”, until they have a chance to slash our throats.


76 posted on 08/18/2014 6:51:24 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: cloudmountain

How often did you go to Mass in Saudi Arabia?

How often did you have a Eucharist Procession outside your church?


77 posted on 08/18/2014 6:54:00 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: cloudmountain

Luke 22:36. But they said: Nothing. Then said he unto them: But now he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise a scrip: and he that hath not, let him sell his coat and buy a sword.


78 posted on 08/18/2014 8:28:50 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: cloudmountain
Read for yourself:

http://rasoulallah.net/index.php/en/articles/article/2264

islam considers a muslim's wealth as a deposit entrusted to one by allah (swt) and in return a muslim has to give away the portion designated for the poor and has to use his wealth only in what pleases allah (swt). zakat or alms tax was the first system known to humanity that guaranteed custody to the needy and social justice among the members of the community, where part of the wealth of the rich is redistributed to the poor and needy. it had entitled "the poor have the right to take alms tax if the rich refrained from paying it voluntarily", as stated by one of the fair orientalists -leorodten-.

79 posted on 08/18/2014 8:29:30 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: cloudmountain

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=asHov6XE1aU


80 posted on 08/18/2014 9:40:32 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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