Posted on 08/17/2014 10:21:22 AM PDT by wmfights
17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together* with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Apparently, from the very scriptures you quoted, there are clearly those who are alive and remain at this event which leads to meeting Christ in the clouds.
Which judgment and resurrection are you referring to? The first or second?
Revelation 20:1-15 KJV
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
No Paul says those in Christ will meet Christ in the clouds and be with the Lord from then on. You posted the verses it is clearly right there.
Frankly you are mixing Revelation with First Thessalonians. You stated that 1 Thessalonians 4 was the Judgment. Revelation describes the two resurrections and two judgments. Not Paul. Reference Revelation 20.
Then the Catholic religion has always taught wrong...Jews and Gentiles alike are grafted into Jesus Christ, not Israel...They are adopted as well as we are...
The Jews are better off staying where they are at rather than professing the Catholic faith...
They were looking for a physical kingdom and Jesus knew it...And Jesus said that kingdom was not NOW (but later) from his world...You can't be a Catholic unless you pervert the scriptures...
boy, that will be something to see when all those horses are smited and the soldiers on them go mad. see how silly dispensationalism is?
You got a lot of guts mocking the words of God...But heh, have at it...
let’s see who can answer two simple yes or no questions.
Golda is as saved as you are...You will both stand at the judgment and be judged on your works...The thing you don't understand is that there won't be any Christians at that judgment...
So the thousands of scriptures in the OT describing the physical kingdom and reign of the King on earth is meaningless...Wasted ink...I like God's interpretation of the scriptures a lot better than I like yours...
But even ELSIE knows what the BOOK says...
“was Golda Meir saved, assuming she never believed in Jesus Christ?”
John 3:18
John 3:16-18
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
We GOTS those??
If you have cable TV, there won’t be much on to watch.
If there isn’t much on to watch, you will answer your door whenever someone rings.
If you open your door, you will see mormons.
If you talk to mormons, they will trick you into “praying about whether something is true”.
If you rely on your feelings, you may become a mormon.
If you become a mormon, you will have to wear magic underwear!
If you wear magic underwear, people will immediately label you as a cultist.
DON’T be a cultist!
Get DirectTV.
The word “catholic” is not in the Bible.
INDEED!
1 Corinthians 14:27
If an unknown tongue any one do speak, by two, or at the most, by three, and in turn, and let one interpret.
I agree, IF by judging you mean SALVATION.
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
I agree, IF by judging you mean SALVATION.
However...
Well; when a church TEACHES that many folks are already up in Heaven NOW (Saints, Mary...); then rapture would tend to be downplayed quite a lot!
Then could YOU post it IN context?
Using the surrounding verses to prove your point against it?
Surely you have some scripture to illustrate this assertion?
Oh?
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