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To: ebb tide

I said I didn’t get an annulment and the reason I didn’t get an annulment is because I was never baptised so my marriage was not sacramental. I signed a form and that was it. I got no annulment.

As far as what Pope Francis said to the woman, you don’t know and I don’t know. No transcripts of it exists. But no matter what he said, it mean nothing. No doctrine has changed or will be changed because of what Francis might have said to a woman. End of story. You worry too much.


53 posted on 08/13/2014 7:08:07 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I was never talking about your own marriage and neither were you when you made your erroneous statement.


54 posted on 08/13/2014 7:25:56 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
No doctrine has changed or will be changed because of what Francis might have said to a woman.

It's not just what what Francis said to a woman. It's also what Francis said on an airplane returning the World Yute day. It's what Francis said to Cardinal Kasper, "serene" "theology on the knees", as he applauded Kasper after Kasper made the argument for Holy Communion to adulterers in front of a synod of bishops.

55 posted on 08/13/2014 7:34:01 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet

“No doctrine has changed or will be changed because of what Francis might have said to a woman. End of story.”

What have you really said here? You have said that, because a short conversation between the Pope and a laywoman is unlikely to result in changes to Church doctrine, it therefore follows that Francis has no intent to bring about such changes. End of story.

What? Really?

Utter nonsense.

One can accept the obvious truth that this short conversation is not likely to change doctrine without in any way falling for the nonsensical assertion that Francis is planning no changes in doctrine

The priest at the church near me almost peed his pants rejoicing at Benedict’s exit and Francis’s election.

And that was specifically because he—and everyone else with half a brain—can see that Francis is a theological leftist and will be encouraging all sorts of things that no faithful priest would condone.

What are some of the things that Francis would like to see, and will bring about if he can?

1. Women priests.
2. Even before that can be introduced, women “pastors” who take charge of a diocese in the absence of a priest.
3. Prohibition of the Tridentine Mass.
4. Prohibition of Latin in every possible context.
5. Divorce.
6. Provision of the Eucharist to unrepentant, flaming sodomites.
7. Sodomite play-pretend marriage.
8. Misuse of Catholic social justice theology to support communism and, ultimately, the removal of the Catholic Church as an obstacle to establishment of the communist worker’s paradise throughout the world.
9. The flushing of all remaining scraps of reverence out of the Mass.
10. Malicious mistranslation of Church documents with the intent of robbing them of their power to move hearts.
11. The increased use of horrible, horrible anti-music at Mass, until Catholic music passes from living memory.
12. The promotion of bad theology that endangers the immortal souls of all Catholics.
13. Vicious persecution of all who oppose any of these goals, just as SSPX was persecuted under JPII for their efforts to keep liturgical Latin and the Tridentine Mass alive.

These are just a few of the things that the enemies of the Church are determined to bring about.


62 posted on 08/14/2014 10:16:40 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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