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To: Talisker
Oh please, what about requiring proof He rise from the dead in the first place? The Bible is one of the most contested, edited, politically fought-over books in human history - as are claims of Jesus's teachings and even existence.

Correction: The Bible is one of the most fought-over books in human history, and the subject of much misinformation. Actually, we have more than 5000 manuscripts in the Greek language for the NT, with a 99.5 similarity, and that's not including the many ancient translations we have in Latin, Syriac, and other languages.

Ignorant atheists often like to believe that the scripture is the subject of much "editing" and trouble, but it is not so when you examine the actual evidence.

As for "proof" in the first place, all of the Apostles died for their belief, as did many others. Ignatius, a disciple of the Apostle John, was eaten by lions. Polycarp, a contemporary and another disciple of John, was also martyred horribly, and yet did not recant. Certainly the testimony of witnesses is a great proof indeed.

Ultimately religion is based on faith and spiritual experience, not "proof,"

This is true to a certain extent, but if there is evidence that utterly says the contrary, then that settles things. Ultimately, faith must have reason too, otherwise you get Mormonism.

And really, why do it at all?

You do not sound like a Christian, so it is probably impossible for you to understand the desire of Christians for the lost to be found.

Isn't life hard enough without having to damn everyone who doesn't think the same? I get so sick of this crap.

Then don't read the thread or these posts.

And this is a perfect example, because the very Protestants who believe Mormons aren't Christians also believe Catholics aren't Christians either

Probably would be wise for you not to put words into peoples mouths.

Bah.

Bah to you too.

11 posted on 07/31/2014 11:05:29 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You do not sound like a Christian, so it is probably impossible for you to understand the desire of Christians for the lost to be found... Probably would be wise for you not to put words into peoples mouths.

You deny my faith in Christ and then tell me not to put words in others mouths in order to avoid my point?

I wish I could say I found your kind of Christianity rare, but I can't. As for me, I consider Christ as the only way to reach God, and Jesus as a genuine full incarnation of Christ.

So obviously, I'm not a Christian, because first of all that's not nearly enough to qualify, and second of all, I haven't received your certification on the relationship between my heart, mind and soul and the living, eternal God.

But look at the bright side - without your certification I am sure to burn in hell for all eternity in screaming torment, so you've got that going for you. After all, can any less be expected for those who differ from your beliefs in even the slightest bit? I think not.

16 posted on 07/31/2014 11:47:34 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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