Then why not name the group you are in? It sure sounds like Armstrongism.
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You could call it the First John believers’ cult. Or the John 3:13 believers’ cult.Since no man but Yeshua has ascended, no man can possibly have been “born again” into the Kingdom! See how the plain words of the scriptures blow holes in your imaginary theology.
How you can imagine that that this blows "holes in your imaginary theology," and your rejection of texts which teach believers are born of the Spirit and place believers into the kingdom, and the rejection of first John - which esp. being by the same writer as Jn. 3 interpretive of it - is a example of the cultic nature of your doctrine which rejects the comprehensive evidence against it and compels text to conform to its cultic conclusions.
Believers are indeed "born" from above, that being "born of the Spirit," being begotten as a child of God by the Spirit as new creations, by faith in the word of God, and placed in the kingdom, so that to die now is to be with the Lord, versus being only born according to the flesh.
And which birth as a child of God - with God being with Him now which Christ supremely exampled - (Jn. 3:2) is what Jn. 3 is contextually about. And is what "ascended up to heaven" fits into, the Christ from Heaven dying and rising so that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Which is a present possession. (1Jn. 5:13)
And which event is necessary to see the resurrection and literal kingdom of God, but which is not said to be spiritual birth by the Spirit by which one become a child of God, but is simply believers receiving their body from Heaven, the only sense in which one is born being physically from the dead.
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, (1 Peter 1:3)
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. (1 Peter 1:23)
Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)
If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. (1 John 2:29)
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. (1 John 5:1)
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. (Galatians 4:29)
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth [willfully, habitually] not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. (1 John 5:18)
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. (2 Corinthians 5:17)
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: (Colossians 1:13)
For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: (Philippians 1:23)
Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. (2 Corinthians 5:6-8)
You attempt to support your non-scriptural ‘theology’ by throwing hay at the fire that is consuming you.
I hold to no ‘ism’ but the scriptures as plainly read (the same scriptures that you imply need your special interpretation.
Are you of the interpretationist cult?
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