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Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

Posted on 07/26/2014 4:41:46 AM PDT by michaelwlf3

I am coming up on my first year as an ordained minister in a continuing Anglican church, and I have noticed that participating on political forums (even when the topic is religious) I find that my opinions and postings more often than not generate more hatred than anything else. Among the things I often hear are that the laity are the real priests and that I am a Pharisee, that my vocation disqualifies me from offering an opinion on anything Christian because I am too narrow minded, and (my personal favorite) because I look too Catholic I must be a child molester.

Are these people really Christians?


TOPICS: Ecumenism; General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: cathvsprot; clergy; laity; sectarianturmoil; theology; whiningwhiners
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To: boatbums

“Cop-out answer.”

No “cop out”. I am simply avoiding the trap that even the “faith alone” crowd falls into, making “faith alone” a form of legalism.


941 posted on 07/31/2014 1:29:38 AM PDT by michaelwlf3
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To: Elsie

“It seems to me that someone who looks likje Brad Pitt in public, and isn’t, and does not LIKE being taken for him; would somehow change his appearance, other than complaining about what other people see.”

You really don’t understand this stuff, do you? I wear clothing the Bishop assigns to me both coming and going, and during the service. Also when representing the Church in hospitals, nursing homes, and prisons.

I don’t have the option of wearing skinny jeans in the pulpit, or shorts and T-shirt at the hospital. I am accountable. To people who interpret their Bible their own way, I am sure this comes as a shock.


942 posted on 07/31/2014 1:43:57 AM PDT by michaelwlf3
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To: Elsie
APPEALING to it IS.

Isn't the continuous existence of a visible church a matter of historical investigation? It was for Cardinal Newman.

943 posted on 07/31/2014 2:28:17 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: michaelwlf3
Frankly, I am surprised you have to ask./I>

I'm 'surprised' you appear to be so reticent about posting the data; instead, basically tell me to 'look it up yourself'.

There ARE lurkers reading our discourse here; won't you help THEM?

944 posted on 07/31/2014 4:10:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: michaelwlf3

That’s GOOD!

But you need pictures; too.


945 posted on 07/31/2014 4:11:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: michaelwlf3
If you are accused of being a child molester, the Protestant inquisition will harass you.

We gots a inquisition; TOO?


I sure didn't expect THat!!!



946 posted on 07/31/2014 4:14:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“I’m ‘surprised’ you appear to be so reticent about posting the data; instead, basically tell me to ‘look it up yourself’.”

Not the subject of the thread. Besides, it will mean more to you if you find it out for yourself.


947 posted on 07/31/2014 4:17:47 AM PDT by michaelwlf3
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To: Cronos
You missed the sentence after photo 2 which says “and of Protestant churchs...”

Indeed I did!

The lower picture was SO big; that when I PG DN down, the text went off the top of the screen.

Just now; when I went back to check, I SCROLLED with the arrow key.

948 posted on 07/31/2014 4:18:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

?

It’s still early for me...


949 posted on 07/31/2014 4:20:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
He was at the basic level asking for "Protestant" posters such as yourself and others on this thread to be his allies ...while he's picking at our scabs?
950 posted on 07/31/2014 4:22:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

It’s only taken 932 replies to get the word SCREECHING posted...


951 posted on 07/31/2014 4:23:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: michaelwlf3

But even brothers get into knock down, drag out fights from time to time...

;^)


952 posted on 07/31/2014 4:24:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: michaelwlf3

...but let an OUTSIDER attack any of us; and the rest WILL pounce to his rescue!


953 posted on 07/31/2014 4:24:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“But even brothers get into knock down, drag out fights from time to time...”

It usually doesn’t take centuries for them to make up.


954 posted on 07/31/2014 4:25:47 AM PDT by michaelwlf3
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To: Elsie

“...but let an OUTSIDER attack any of us; and the rest WILL pounce to his rescue!”

“...Just go and lay your hands on a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, and I think you’re gonna finally understand...”

-Charlie Daniels


955 posted on 07/31/2014 4:27:45 AM PDT by michaelwlf3
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To: michaelwlf3
You really don’t understand this stuff, do you?

No; I don't.

I have no clue as to the amount of power the controlling people above you have.

Have you told the bishop who assigns you clothing the problem?

956 posted on 07/31/2014 4:27:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Isn't the continuous existence of a visible church a matter of historical investigation?

Our country has been in existence HOW long?

Is IT the same as at the begining?

957 posted on 07/31/2014 4:28:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-authority.html

It was for Cardinal Newman.


958 posted on 07/31/2014 4:31:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: michaelwlf3
Besides, it will mean more to you if you find it out for yourself.

It 'will mean more' to your image here if you quit dragging your feet.

959 posted on 07/31/2014 4:33:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: xone
If one has faith to hope and pray for Luther's repentance and redemption, go for it. It may be a kind of therapy to deal with the truth about his AntiSemitism. Here is an apparent Lutheran that learned about the dark side of Luther and encountered the cognitive dissonance from her Protestant friends "So I mentioned this on Facebook (because that’s how I roll), and was a little surprised by how quickly many of my friends rushed to defend Luther’s reputation. They said that everyone was anti-Semitic in those days, that Luther was frustrated after trying to convert the Jews, that this was all based on a misinterpretation of Scripture. Luther should not be remembered for this “flaw,” they said, but for his great contribution to Christian theology."

If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

960 posted on 07/31/2014 5:00:15 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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