Why do Protestant lay people hate clergy?

[michaelwlf3]

I am coming up on my first year as an ordained minister in a continuing Anglican church, and I have noticed that participating on political forums (even when the topic is religious) I find that my opinions and postings more often than not generate more hatred than anything else. Among the things I often hear are that the laity are the real priests and that I am a Pharisee, that my vocation disqualifies me from offering an opinion on anything Christian because I am too narrow minded, and (my personal favorite) because I look too Catholic I must be a child molester.

Are these people really Christians?

[daniel1212]

Beware, you are apparently dealing with an advocate of Arnold Murray:

The Heresy of Arnold Murray - Deception In The Church

www.deceptioninthechurch.com/arnoldmurray.html

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Not only does Arnold Murray teach a false concert of God, he also believes that men were once gods who existed prior to living on the earth. In Genesis 1:26 ...

• Arnold Murray - Rapture Ready

  https://www.raptureready.com/who/Arnold_Murray.html

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  Arnold Murray has created his own brand of false "Christianity" by promoting his unbiblical ... If you come across his name or his teachings, run don't walk, away.

• Arnold Murray. False Teacher. False Prophet.

  www.mikeschristiancorner.com/murray.html

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  Arnold Murray. False Teacher. False Prophet. (note!! Link to video of Murray's failed prophecies, actual tape of them, at the bottom of this page). Yesterday ...

• Arnold Murray - False Teacher Exposed - Part 1 - YouTube

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  www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Z_Ybbe5a8

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  Jul 6, 2011 - Uploaded by Dante Fortson

  http://www.ministerfortson.com. Forum Exposing Murray As A False Teacher http://cbrefugeecamp.yuku.com ...

• Who is Arnold Murray? | Christian Apologetics and ...

  carm.org/who-arnold-murray

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  by matt slick - Arnold Murray is the "pastor" of a church called the Shepherd's Chapel which ... Also, it isn't necessary to have a doctorate to be a good teacher of the word of God. ... In addition, it seems that he has made a false prophecy as is documented by ...
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  Shepherd's Chapel Profile - Watchman Fellowship

  www.watchman.org/profile/murraypro.htm

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  The history of Arnold Murray and the Shepherd's Chapel is a closely guarded ... Murray's false teachings motivated the Jesus People Information Center to ...

• The Shepherd's Chapel and Dr. Arnold Murray Information ...

  www.oraclesofgod.org/shepherds_chapel.htm

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  Exposing the false doctrines and false teachings of the Shepherd's Chapel and Dr. Arnold Murray. An extensive collection of email debates, audio clips, and ...

• Arnold Murray-The Shepherds Chapel

  www.letusreason.org/poptea4.htm

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  Arnold Murray's Shepherd Chapel is located in Gravette Arkansas. .... They are deceived into taking the mark by miracles of the false prophet and the antichrist.

[editor-surveyor]

Since you have shown that you don’t believe what it says anyway, What difference can it make to you, who do not study it for understanding?

To be a believer requires belief, not denial.

Believing that God has kept the errors that you believe is unbelief.

[editor-surveyor]

>> What do you mean by “deception when it comes”? <<

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Yep, the deception has been here all the time!

Paul spoke of the Mystery of Iniquity in the first century.
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[metmom]

Aren’t they able to think for themselves?

No. When I was growing up the priests words were law. What he said went.

He represented the Catholic church. He had the education and training in spiritual matters.

He had the (allegedly) power to bind or retain your sins so you did NOT want to cross him. You wanted him on your side.

You did not challenge what he or any nuns even ever said.

It just isn't an option either by training or because nobody is willing to risk putting their eternal destination on the line like that.

When you are raised believing that salvation is through them/the church, you don't question, you submit and bow, and when they jump you do it without even asking how high or for how long.

And read some of the posts on the RF and you'll see the defense of the indefensible. It;s Catholic talking points all the way and you can't even show them out of Scripture because it's so ingrained into them that they cannot understand it or interpret it correctly that it's like the deer in the headlights syndrome. Their eyes glaze over and their mind must go blank.

[michaelwlf3]

“Oh wow! Now you can read minds also!!!!! That’s rather frowned upon here.”

I don’t have to read your mind, I can read your posts.

[metmom]

I am still trying to figure out what my posting frequency has to do with the price of eggs.

I didn't think you would......

[metmom]

FOTFLOL!!!!!

[metmom]

Thanks dan......

[editor-surveyor]

The site you link on this Arnold Murray is clearly a cult site itself.

It’s title “Rapture Ready” is indicative of beliefs that are contrary to the word.

Cult vs. Cult
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[caww]

ugh? Have no idea who you’re referring to .....as an advocate????

[MamaB]

That is a very interesting site. I found it years ago.

[Karl Spooner]

It’s title “Rapture Ready” is indicative of beliefs that are contrary to the word.

If that's what he taught I would agree with you. There isn't a title called "Rapture Ready" there.

[MamaB]

I do not understand how anyone can think they are right 100% of the time. No one is perfect.

[Karl Spooner]

Hard to believe that you let some internet website deceive you that easy. But here it is. Have a nice day.

[MamaB]

I had not been to that site for 4-5 years. Did you read the info on Catholics? Wow. So this love affair with Muslims goes back years. Did you read where that pope said people have to belong to the Catholic Church to be saved? Baloney!!! God tells us in the Bible how to have eternal life and no time is a church group mentioned. How do they believe this nonsense? I am amazed.

[Karl Spooner]

I see now. The gentleman posted something negative about Murray from Rapture Ready.

[boatbums]

I agree with all you said. I must say that in all my years of Bible study, including learning about other religions and cults, this is the first time I've heard of the doctrine that those "born again/from above" aren't really until the general resurrection when the redeemed receive their glorified bodies (as long as they have "endured to the end"). Do you know which denomination teaches this or is this just the beliefs of a few?

[Elsie]

We should perhaps ask Elsie to re-post his list of evil popes

Why???

"They were merely men.

The CHURCH; however; is infallible!"

[Karl Spooner]

Do you two have any apologies yet?

[Elsie]

I rejoice every time you post that.

Oh YEAH?? HATER!!!

What about Jim Jones?

Jeremiah WRIGHT??

Jimmy Swaggart???

Jim & Tammy??

--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail MARY!!!)