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The Church Needs To Stop Taking Government Money
Acton Institute ^ | 7/25/2014 | Elise Hilton

Posted on 07/25/2014 8:28:22 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: sitetest

Many of the hospitals will shed their Catholic identity, the way Catholic Healthcare West became Dignity Health (so they could commit abortions without interference.) Others will defy the bishops, and some of the the bishops will wink wink their approval.

The colleges will go along with the forced faggotry in defiance of the bishops, and some of the the bishops will wink wink their approval.

Some dioceses will go along with the forced faggotry. Most of those will produce an avalanche of words to deceive the few Catholics who object to the faggotry. They will label those objectors as uncharitable and bigoted, the way they label those who object to their attempts to dissolve the border.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 10:56:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: DManA
>>All these churches should have a little faith that God will provide.<<

I agree. I’ve been thinking about that on several levels lately. Whether it’s churches, Christian singing groups or individuals, or whatever they have all fallen into the worldly “contract” business. I listen to a Christian station that plays gospel music. It’s the same songs over and over and it makes me wonder if it’s because of the royalties demanded by the groups or individuals. If it is I would suggest that the Biblical admonition “verily they have their reward” would apply rather than being blessed by God and rewarded in heaven.

22 posted on 07/25/2014 12:10:23 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: PGR88
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Any church taking money from the Government is making a deal with the devil.


Yep ... and (sadly) that includes ALL IRS 501-C3 tax-exempt churches in America.

Don't blame me ... I'm just the messenger.

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23 posted on 07/25/2014 2:19:44 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: markomalley

ALL CHURCHES, white, black, red and yellow, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Mormon, or Pagan, must stop taking any federal money, or they should be counted among the federal whoredom!

IF they take the money, whatever stand they take, must be discounted, because they owe a favor to the federal government, and could never threaten that money train!


24 posted on 07/25/2014 2:29:00 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: xzins

**The Church Needs To Stop Taking Government Money**

Every church everywhere!

BTTT!


25 posted on 07/25/2014 5:05:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


26 posted on 07/25/2014 5:15:37 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: markomalley

The great whore of rev 17 is riding the beast which is the government.


27 posted on 07/25/2014 5:43:33 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: markomalley

Money from the government always comes with strings attached, and those strings have tied the hands of too many Catholics. >>

then why lobby for school vouchers?


28 posted on 07/25/2014 6:13:58 PM PDT by Coleus
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Dear Jeff Chandler,

You may be right.

But I'm not sure withdrawal from the “public square” is the right approach, either. We have, over the past century, abandoned, one by one, all our institutions as the left has encroached upon them. As the left has made its long march through our institutions, we have given ground over and over, hoping that the left will leave us be in the space that is left to us.

My own view, not particularly well-formulated, is that we need to fight to take back the institutions that we created and tell the left to go back to Hell whence it came.

Thus, my view, regarding these issues, is to sue the Hell out of the federal government by questioning the very premise of the idea of government regulation of religious organizations. In western civilization, it was understood that Church preceded state ontologically, and the ultimate reason that the Church was tax-free was that the inferior cannot exert authority (in this case, the power to tax) over the superior.

We need to re-assert this argument, and make the case that the First Amendment is first and foremost, when it deals with religion, about the recognition that the Church ontologically comes before the state and the state has no power over it.


sitetest

29 posted on 07/25/2014 6:51:56 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

I don’t see that kind of courage among Catholic clergy; it is rare. I also don’t see that the bishops are on the right side of the culture wars. A few are, but most of them are Progressives and give only lip service to the Faith.


30 posted on 07/25/2014 7:07:58 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Dear Jeff Chandler,

I'm not under any delusion that the bishops will do anything but “lead from the rear.” It will be up to the laity.


sitetest

31 posted on 07/25/2014 8:52:10 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: markomalley

Acton Institute needs more publicity.


32 posted on 07/25/2014 9:15:25 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: sitetest
It will be up to the laity.

I'm up to the task. How about you?

33 posted on 07/25/2014 9:22:51 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Dear Jeff Chandler,

I'll let you know when I figure out exactly what the task is.

;-)


sitetest

34 posted on 07/25/2014 9:43:56 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: markomalley

I very much agree with this. The Church will grow spiritually strong without Federal money!


35 posted on 07/26/2014 9:05:23 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: CynicalBear; DManA

>>All these churches should have a little faith that God will provide.<<

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!


36 posted on 07/26/2014 9:07:43 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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