[af_vet_1981]

1. CB explained what *partakers* means in post 407 and is not the same as *received* as CB showed there as well.
2. It’s a different word than *believe*, too, as I showed in post 428.
3. So, no, those who were *partakers* are not those who have believed or received.

1. They were made partakers of the Holy Ghost just as we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; Same word, same author, same meaning, same God ( the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,)
2. Of course partakers is a different word than believe; they have different roots; partakers is a noun, believe is a verb; the comparison has nothing to do with the meaning of partakers in the book of Hebrews.
3. Since they were made partakers of the Holy Ghost it is reasonable to view them in the same light as these Gentiles: And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

There are five occurrences of this same word (μέτοχος) in the book of Hebrews. The KJV translates the first as "fellows" and the other four as "partakers."

• But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
• Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
• For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
• For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened , and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
• But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

[narses]

Pearls. You cast pearls.

[CynicalBear]

I know Catholics like to get bogged down in the minutia in order to avoid the pertinent issues but I’m really done with this. Whether one believes in OSOS doesn’t really matter after all. Those who God saves will stay saved or scripture is untrue.

John 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.…

The only people who don’t believe in once saved always saved are those who believe in a works based salvation. They may want to consider the “filthy rags” perception of their best efforts.

[CynicalBear]

I know Catholics like to get bogged down in the minutia in order to avoid the pertinent issues but I’m really done with this. Whether one believes in OSOS doesn’t really matter after all. Those who God saves will stay saved or scripture is untrue.

John 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.…

The only people who don’t believe in once saved always saved are those who believe in a works based salvation. They may want to consider the “filthy rags” perception of their best efforts.