[Salvation]

And it would be nice if the people who posted those were pinged when you talk behind their backs!

I’m still trying to find out who posted the other remark.

This has happened repeatedly.....isn’t it just plain courtesy to ping them when you reference them?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3180881/posts?page=26#26 Verga

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3180881/posts?page=30#30 defconw

[Karl Spooner]

Give us a break. They were confronted directly numerous times.

[metmom]

Will you remind Catholics as well when they fail to ping others, too, as they very often do?

[defconw]

Let's not worry about it anymore. We got off track some where and someone decided that it was no longer a Caucus thread. So Freepmail is the best way to go sometimes.

I think going back to the original article, that there is not confusion on the teaching. The teaching is clear. The problem is obstinacy. What is confusing to certain people is that they want a particular rule changed to fit their individual situation. That is what the tribunal is for.

Defining Divorce is the problem in my opinion. The Church does not recognize divorce for a sacramental marriage.

Generations before this current one understood that if a civil divorce was granted by a court of law, you were not to remarry as in the eyes of the Church you are still married. to the other person despite the civil (government action).

Granted these matters are so complicated that they require Marriage Tribunals to sort it out. Every Diocese has priests that the Bishop thinks will be a good candidate for the tribunal. But they just don't appoint them to it . The priest has to go to Cannon law school.

I think that better Pre-Cana education and more scrutiny of couples asking to be married would solve this problem.

There is to much pressure on priests to agree to marry people. Why should they marry people who are not practicing Catholics.

It should not be a status symbol. If the couple never goes to Mass, perhaps they should just go get married else where. Should they have a conversion of heart latter the marriage can be blessed.

It's our own often self serving obstinacy that gets in the way of following the "rules". Thy will be done means what it says. To many Catholics think MY word be done.

We are all individually special in God's eye, but that does not entitle us to pick a choose what we want to follow. It destroys the fabric of the Body of Christ.

More people need to go back to that old phrase. "offer it up".

[CynicalBear]

LOL Oy vey!!!