Posted on 07/12/2014 8:50:54 AM PDT by Legatus
I call shenanigans. In what way is what I believe even remotely Pharisaical?
Yup. I judge lots of people. Spent a lot of time talking about that. So you confuse me.
The only reason I included you in the ping is that I was responding to a ping to you. It wasnt you I was addressing but thought you would want to see the response.
Cool! Thank you!
>>people outside of the Church seem to believe almost everything necessary, but not all of it.<<
almost everything necessary, but not all of it? I pointed out that Paul distinctly and succinctly answered believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. Now, what more is needed that prompted your but not all of it comment?
What's the FR Catholic Coterie going to do, if they can't subvert Protestants?
(It's the particular group that he's making lovey-lovey noises at, that boggles my mind.)
Tell me again how large the Catholic religion is...And don't forget it is attempting to grow even larger with its ecumenical outreach and even drawing closer to its muzlim brothers...
You left out part of the verse you were trying to quote...
Mat_7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Apparently 'a few' to a Catholic is a few billion...I'm pretty sure that a 'few who find it' doesn't refer to billions of Catholics and muzlims...
Why would you trust the word of any man when you have the words of God at your beck and call???
You KNOW that eh??? How do you reconcile that position with this scripture???
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Who has said there aren't many Catholics who could be in Hell?
Why you lumped mooselimbs with Catholics is beyond me.
Isn't that amazing...One of their popes is flat out lying...One claims it came right from God that Protestants can't be saved...The other says (God was wrong or that pope lied) by saying 'yes they can'...
You'd think some of them would recognize the fakery that is going on...
Once again, I urge you not to fall for a non-Biblical, impossibly false dichotomy of "Christ without the Church," "Christ divorced from the Church," "Christ vs the Church."
Of course the word "Church" can be used in many senses: probably dozens of senses, including the invisible (comprising also the saints who have passed on before us), including the secret (as we pray in the Liturgy, "those whose Faith is known to You alone"), including the ecclesiastical, the historical, the sacramental, the creedal, the sociological, even the architectural (!)
But the most basic sense, I think, would be "those who are being incorporated into Christ."
Certainly if you are a baptized believer, you --- I don't say just Catholics, but YOU, baptized believer-guy --- are a member of the Church.
However you want to say it, to be dismissive of the Church is to be dismissive of His Body.
>>John 20<<
>>[21] He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you. [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.<<
Who has forgiven your sins, if you have any?
Sorry Charley but yours is the religion that says it doesn't err...Just admitting that your religion erred in the past is a no-no for you guys...
That's goofy...Of course God established a library with the instructions in it on how to run his church...And that's church, not Church...
If a bible never existed, how many followers do you think would become Catholic???
One pope spoke ex cathedra; the other does not speak ex cathedra. As a matter of fact all post VC II pope have refused to speak ex cathedra.
Well, I don’t know, I pretty much give up whenever I see that word.
Also, when a recipe calls for “oil”.
Like, you need to narrow that down for me!
How come Luther changed the Bible to his own liking? Did he know better than the Holy Ghost?
Not sure where you got that one from. First off, the term church as Catholics would like us to envision it does not and did not exist during the life of the apostles. Second, the body of Christ is NOT the Catholic Church but consists of all true believers who trust in Him alone. The Catholic Church is a man made organization that seems now to be falling apart at the seems or attempting to establish a one world religion incorporating all beliefs.
>> Certainly if you are a baptized believer, you --- I don't say just Catholics, but YOU, baptized believer-guy --- are a member of the Church.<<
Not a member of the church. A part of the assembly of believers. Catholics need to trash the concept of the church that has been perpetuated to wrest control over the masses.
>> However you want to say it, to be dismissive of the Church is to be dismissive of His Body.<<
Not if youre talking about any organization that today calls itself a church. The term church has been so corrupted it holds no meaning in terms of the body of Christ.
Charley is no spokesman for the Catholic Church. The Popes, quoted ex cathedra, are.
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