Posted on 06/30/2014 7:49:01 AM PDT by Salvation
Natheless, as they said in the old days, it is hard lines to require that everyone read the Bible to be saved, given the large numbers of illiterate in times past and even today. I'm pretty sure that's what the Holy Father was condemning, not the reading of Scripture per se.
and of course, if you have to go back to 1713 to find a stick to beat Catholics with . . .
To forbid Christians to read Sacred Scripture, especially the Gospels, is to forbid the use of light to the sons of light, and to cause them to suffer a kind of excommunication."
Save your sighs and practice your readings. Those particular statements you quoted were pronounced "Condemned" by Clement. If you had not drunk the Kool-Aid before checking the material, you would run from Rome. It is not "hatred dripping from every pore", but compassion we feel for the poor dupes who have been sucked in by Rome's travesty they call a "church". It is the devil's playground.
Okay, I just got back to your second post and I appreciate your honesty. Apologies accepted, but not necessary. It is not that I need to reach, “...back to 1713 to find a stick to beat Catholics with...”, it is that the insidious error of Rome has always been festering under the surface. I am committed to continue to shine a light on that Romanist error of semi-Pelagian heresy (as much as I wish to disabuse folks of the popular evangelical, sawdust trail, Joel Osteen, sinner’s prayer nonsense).
No, you are not “pretty sure” what Clement was getting at, but you can be sure what he did. He condemned Bible reading.
Since a French bishop had already approved the translation, there were political problems involved as well.
So it's not an all-out condemnation of Scripture reading.
Plus, of course, in the intervening 300 years we've snagged an actual indulgence for prayerfully reading Scripture for more than 20 minutes . . . !
With all due respect, your “research” was accomplished in a few hours and turns up a “heresy”? Exactly what heresy did Jansen promulgate that is unbiblical (as opposed to un-Catholic)? Predestination, original sin, anti-semipelagianism, non-reverence for dead men?
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