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Undeniably.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/09/1220127/-Daily-Kos-Elections-2012-election-results-by-congressional-and-legislative-districts

Those KOS bastards are good at crunching #s. Sadly they haven’t done Illinois districts.

NY SD-17, 58.27% Romney. Not quite the best, GOP District on Staten Island (Which Romney narrowly lost as whole because of the stupid hurricane, making it one of only a few counties to switch from McCain to Obama), SD-24 gave Romney 58.66%. Two best districts for Romney in state were in the NYC city limits.

>> Two best districts for Romney in state were in the NYC city limits. <<

That shows a big difference between New York and Illinois. There are pockets of GOP voters in NYC, in places like like Staten Island. I can't imagine any of Romney's "best districts" in Illinois were within Chicago city limits. In fact, I'd be surprised if he won a single Chicago ward or senate district. Bush won only 1 ward out of 50 (Ward 41), and that was the "traditional GOP ward" with a Republican alderman and state senator, and he only won it by like 52% or something (I think the GOP state senator got 63% in that ward, so Bush ran behind)

And when it comes to the city vote by religious breakdown, I was arguing with an anti-Catholic freeper who said the protestant vote in Chicago is probably more GOP friendly than the Catholic vote and makes up the bulk of Republican voters in the city. I'd say its the other way around, since most of the protestant majority areas of the city would probably be black neighborhoods (heavily Baptist) and they gave Obama more than 95%+ of the vote. Romney did much better in white Irish Catholic neighborhoods like Mt. Greenwood (ward 23, Romney got 30% of the vote) You can see the totals here:

http://www.chicagoelections.com/wdlevel3.asp?elec_code=19

As for the Jewish vote in Chicago, I don't think there are many Orthodox Jews within Chicago city limits. I'm guessing the "overall" Jewish vote in Chicago went overwhelmingly RAT, but that differs little from the city as a whole.

The state Senate district on Staten Island to which you refer is a heavily Italian-American middle class district, maybe about 10% Jewish, with only a smattering of Orthodox and Russian Jews. (In other words, pretty much off the topic of this thread.)

Didn't realize that Romney supposedly lost Staten Island as a whole because of the hurricane, which one would assume kept a lot of middle class homeowners from voting. Romney's popular vote on SI was an amazing 23% less than McCain's four years before. And his statewide vote was about a half million less than McCain's. Aside from the hurricane, Romney's failure to campaign in New York and in next-door NJ, and perhaps shenanigans in vote counting other Democrat cheating, contributed toward his losing the state by an incredible nearly 2 to 1 margin to an Obama candidacy which garnered about a half million votes in NY less than in '08 and several million votes less nationally than in '08.

Weird. First time in American history that a president was re-elected nationally to a second term with a smaller popular vote than for his first term!