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500 Years of Chaos: Protestantism’s Anniversary
Catholic Analysis ^ | 7 June 2014 | Philipp Rogall

Posted on 06/08/2014 1:59:17 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson

In 2017, we will witness the 500th anniversary of one of the most important, influential and regrettable events in Church history: the Protestant Reformation, or the Protestant Rebellion, as some prefer to call it. Indeed, the latter term would suit me better, too. But, being German, I am used to the former expression and should I ever refer to said event as die protestantische Rebellion, people would think me some sort of radical. On that thought, perhaps it is worth noting that rebels are often quite radical themselves, which is one thing we can definitely say of the so-called "Reformers". To mark this anniversary, the Lutheran World Federation (LWF) has planned a number of events, beginning with a "Lutheran Decade" from 2008 to 2017. Each year has it’s own theme in the form of "The Reformation and…", i.e. Education, Freedom, Music, Tolerance, Politics and others.

The decade will culminate in the celebratory year of 2017, to which the President of the Evangelical "Church" in Germany (EKD), Nikolaus Schneider, has even invited Pope Francis. But, really, how likely is it His Holiness will hop on a plane and join in the celebration of someone his predecessor excommunicated? One might ask, is there any room for Catholics to take part in some sort of event? This is the question that is circulating in the mother country of the Reformation: Germany. The Most Reverend Gerhard Feige, Bishop of Magdeburg, is the Bishops' Conference's representative for ecumenical affairs. He has dedicated a lot of thought and time to the question how Catholics should view this event.

It begins with the name: Do we call it an anniversary, something that could imply happiness, or a commemoration of an event that has wrought such great damage upon the Body of Christ, His holy Bride, the Catholic Church? The German bishops have chosen the latter term. There is still confusion on the whole thing, though: The EKD is not being very clear on what exactly they want to celebrate. One hears catchy words such as "diversity", "conscience", and the like stuck onto the Reformation in their talk, but never do we hear of heresy, schism or even the antisemitism of Luther and his ilk. Indeed, who in his right mind would celebrate the chaos and harm inflicted on the Church by the so-called "Reformers"? Not even the Protestants organizing the event dare to say thus. Yet, one gets the impression that the whole event is not actually interested in critically evaluating the past, or their theology for that matter, but rather praising it as the dawn of an era of "tolerance" and "liberty".

Could this be any further from the truth? Professor Heinz Schilling of Berlin, a member of the advisory board for the anniversary, stated in an interview that Luther was "everything but tolerant" and criticized the EKD as "quite understandably not interested in any of the research’s findings". He went even further and said that the organizers made themselves appear "laughable among scholars" by claiming what they do. Margot Käßmann, who is the anniversary’s ambassador and a former Lutheran "bishop", once claimed that it was thanks to Luther that her sect had female "bishops". The professor criticizes this as yet another inaccuracy and something that Luther certainly did not envision. Is it any wonder, then, that the EKD has not come out clearly and said what the entire occasion is about for them, as the bishops have repeatedly bewailed, if even their own board members see through their catchy slogans?

What about us Catholics? Is there any way in which we can join our separated brethren in their commemoration? I argue: no. Some will disagree, but to me, the Reformation is intrinsically connected to fracture in the Body of Christ, heresy and the resulting total chaos. I could never join any such "commemoration", even if one doesn't call it an "anniversary" for the sake of appeasing Catholics. When have we ever "commemorated" the schism of 1054, or any heresy, for that matter? I believe we would do great harm to the effort of achieving Christian unity by taking part in any way. It obscures the borders between Catholicism and Protestantism, confuses people, and may even cause scandal.

The aforementioned Margot Käßmann suggested the following kind of participation of Catholics and Protestants: Each group could begin a pilgrimage on their own route, and reach one common destination. She would also like the program to achieve that all people learn "that 31 October is Reformation Day and not Halloween", to which Bishop Feige of Magdeburg replied "and the eve of All Saints". But the problem I see with Käßmann’s proposal is this: Although the idea might seem nice, it suggests that Protestantism and Catholicism are somehow equals. They most definitely are not. And certainly not according to Luther himself! Catholics know that their Church is the Church Christ the Lord founded on St. Peter, and Protestantism's very name already suggests otherwise. The Reformers made that point very clear. From a Catholic point of view, a heretical movement that splits the Church cannot be of equal worth as the One True Faith. Just think how we would have fought Arianism if such had been our position! This is not to say that Protestants aren't Christians, of course, but we must realize that Protestantism is not what our Lord willed us to have or believe: Catholicism is. Thus, two equal pilgrimages reaching one destination à la Käßmann would cause scandal and confusion. I assume she does not want it to symbolize the way we might some day find unity, but rather the common destination means Christ. But that is precisely the point: The Catholic Church is the ark of salvation, the Body and Bride of Christ, and She alone has "the words of eternal life" (John 6:68). She is Christ in this world apart from Whom "no one comes to the Father" (John 14:6). Protestantism has distorted those words of eternal life fundamentally, and thus cannot be on equal footing with Holy Mother Church. If Christ is "the Way, the Truth and the Life" apart from Whom there is no salvation, then so is the Catholic Church, for She is His Body (Ephesians 1:22-23, Colossians 1:24).

Thus, let me emphasize again: Celebrating the Reformation, or even commemorating it with Protestants, will blur the sharp line between the One True Church and those communities that came from the Protestant Reformation. It will scandalize and, actually, almost certainly make Christian unity harder to achieve. For in pretending Protestantism is somehow equally valid or of the same dignity as Catholicism, we take away the very reason for Christian unity: to be united in the one Church that our Lord left us, founded on Peter in the person of the Roman Pontiff.

Therefore, I hope the German bishops decide not to participate – however unlikely that is. It remains to be seen whether the ecumenical progress in achieving unity hoped for will come about. Let us pray, that 2017 will bring to many people's attention the Truth of Catholicism and the scandal that the separation of Christians is, fostering in them the desire for unity with Christ in His Bride, which is Holy Church.

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To: boatbums

“And some of those SAME people are Roman Catholics!”

Sinners all. And yet the Church does NOT teach those things ‘bums, and you certainly ought to know that. So what is your point?


81 posted on 06/08/2014 3:28:36 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Salvation
Catholics do NOT worship Mary. This belief is one of the biggest misbeliefs that non-Catholics have.

Hahahahahahahaaaa.

Another laugh this morning. I guess all those SHRINES to Mary to which RC's BOW and PRAY are just a figment of the imagination.

Note that Christ is relegated to the side...

82 posted on 06/08/2014 3:28:41 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("Every American should feel outrage at any injustice done to our veterans " -Sarah Palin 5/26/14)
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To: Tao Yin

One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic


83 posted on 06/08/2014 3:29:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: GeronL

“But Catholics do not believe that.”

False.


84 posted on 06/08/2014 3:29:42 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: WVKayaker

85 posted on 06/08/2014 3:30:05 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: what's up

**Having one denomination does not signify truth.**

Then why is it, pray tell, that the Catholic Church is the one church that has stood through the ages (since Jesus’ time 33 A.D.) to this day against:

abortion

euthanasia

contraception

same-sex marriage — homosexuality

embryonic stem cell research

in vitro fertilization

and on and on..................???

Why other lines of faith have crumbled on these issues??


86 posted on 06/08/2014 3:33:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

2000 years.


87 posted on 06/08/2014 3:34:28 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: ravenwolf

No, that is not true.

The Vatican is located across the river from the other hills of Rome. (Check it out)


88 posted on 06/08/2014 3:34:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: miss marmelstein

Nope, but you sound like you are!


89 posted on 06/08/2014 3:43:33 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: Dallas59

Hate to tell you this, but Christ founded his church on the apostles as the Bible tells us. They were ordained the first Bishops when he breathed on them.


90 posted on 06/08/2014 3:46:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ravenwolf; Lx
>>You are not alone in that, and if it is true then the protestant Churches are the daughters and also whores.<<

Yep!

91 posted on 06/08/2014 3:50:48 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Dallas59
Sad that you do not believe the Bible.

Gospel Jn 20:19-23

On the evening of that first day of the week,
when the doors were locked, where the disciples were,
for fear of the Jews,
Jesus came and stood in their midst
and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side.
The disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord.
Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you.
As the Father has sent me, so I send you.”
And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them,
“Receive the Holy Spirit.
Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them,
and whose sins you retain are retained.”


92 posted on 06/08/2014 3:53:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: matthewrobertolson; RginTN
Read carefully. Since the Church is the Body of Christ, She represents Christ — therefore, apart from Her, there is no salvation.

Read carefully:

When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. (Acts 2:37-47)

One receives Jesus Christ and the gift of eternal life by the grace of God THROUGH faith and is added to the church, the body of Christ, His bride.

93 posted on 06/08/2014 3:55:27 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: Salvation

Like I said, the faithful are in all denominations. Millions of protestants are also fighting for morality and truth. God will judge on an individual basis. He does not absolve just because you are in a certain denomination.


94 posted on 06/08/2014 3:58:43 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: matthewrobertolson

Is there any reason you want to start crap between Protestants and Catholics at FR? Alreaqdy enough of that already troll!!!!


95 posted on 06/08/2014 3:59:16 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: what's up

amen


96 posted on 06/08/2014 3:59:56 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: matthewrobertolson

I’m not dividing the church.

Just because you belong to a denomination does not mean you are part of the church. There are sheep and then there are goats. and that is what jesus himself taught.


97 posted on 06/08/2014 4:06:11 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: GeronL
we will when Jesus returns, we won’t need fancy robes or languages or ceremonies then"

So, never quote the book of Revelation again as you obviously believe it's not inspired Scripture.
Or are you just admitting you cut and paste what you like and ignore the rest because you believe that while the Bible is full of errors, you're perfect?
98 posted on 06/08/2014 4:07:20 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: matthewrobertolson
One Church according to Christ and the Bible!

John 14

6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 1:22-23

22 and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church,

23 which is his body, the fulness of him who fills all in all.

Colossians 1

24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ's afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church,

John 6

68 Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life;


99 posted on 06/08/2014 4:08:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: matthewrobertolson
So, you say that everyone born before then is burning in Hell right now?

Quit with the straw man argument.

The reason that Martin Luther came along was the corruption in the Catholic Church and the traditions that had replaced the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of the justification by grace.

Protestantism filled the void that the leadership of the Catholic Church had created.

Were people saved and born again before they came along, sure, all the way back to Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
100 posted on 06/08/2014 4:08:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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