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To: sasportas

Thank you for taking the time to respond. However, I believe that Jesus came to re-establish the conditions which existed between God and Adam before the fall - the very conditions presented in Revelation. We now have the opportunity to be in full communion with our God - free of any remembrance of sin - and with Satan out of heaven and bound so that the Church could be successful among the nations. For me, to believe otherwise is to leave the work of Jesus uncompleted - which I find hard to accept. Many scientists have convincing arguments against the 6 day creation, and many theologians have convincing arguments against the completion of Jesus’ prophecy within the next 40 years. I just disagree with each.

Thanks again - this is truly a fascinating topic!


85 posted on 06/01/2014 4:15:51 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: impactplayer

Thanks for your response, and a sincere one it appears.

I, too, believe that Jesus came to re-establish the conditions which existed before the fall – the very conditions presented in Revelation. But they haven’t yet, that’s the difference between your system of interpretation and mine.

While it is true, for those who have Christ as their Lord, we experience the things you mentioned, full communion with God, etc. The things brought to us as a result of the wound the seed of the woman (Gen. 3:15) received, Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection, but what of the rest of the world that does not have him as Lord? What about all his enemies? What of the other part of the seed of the woman prophecy? What about the crushing of the devil’s head?

Paul wrote Romans many years after the wounding of the seed of the woman, wherein he says the rest of that prophecy remains to be fulfilled, Rom. 16:20. Christ’s enemies have assuredly NOT been put under his feet yet. In order for the Edenic conditions you mentioned be restored, his enemies have to be put under his feet.

While it has happened already for those of us who are subjects of Christ, not so the rest of the world. The seed of the woman prophecy, thus was only partially fulfilled at the first coming, at his wounding, we are presently awaiting his inter-advent enemies to be put under his feet at the second coming.

Like I tried to bring out in my post to you, prophecy is near-far. We are not in a prophetic vacuum, as preterists claim, since 70 AD left without any prophetic signs to let us know prophetically where we are in God’s grand prophetic plan, far from it, that is why so much of the Bible is prophetic.


86 posted on 06/01/2014 4:51:42 PM PDT by sasportas
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