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To: Boogieman
>>>Here we see first resurrection clearly specified as only a resurrection of the just, and also in John 5:28-29: <<<

>>>“28 Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.”<<<

>>>Christ describes two separate events, a resurrection of life (the first resurrection) and a resurrection of judgement (the second resurrection). <<<

Where is the 1000+ year separation of those resurrections? I don't see it. According to Christ, they all come out of their tombs in the same hour.


>>>Also, we have a similar statement in Acts 24:14 :<<<

>>>“15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.”<<<

>>>This can only refer to two separate events, as we know there are two separate resurrections, <<<

No WE don't. LOL! That verse is similar to John 5:28-29, Daniel 12:1-2 and Matt 16:27-28. In both the first and second resurrection, both good and bad are resurrected. Recall the parable of the sheep and the goats:

    "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: . . . Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:" (Mt 25:31-41 KJV)

There is no way that is describing two separate events.

Philip

63 posted on 05/31/2014 11:14:10 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau

“Where is the 1000+ year separation of those resurrections? I don’t see it. According to Christ, they all come out of their tombs in the same hour.”

The problem with this argument is that it relies on the Bible, and therefore God, being inconsistent. When we have a less detailed description in one section, and a more detailed description in another section, of the same events, then we should read them in such a way as to assume the author was trying to be consistent, because the ultimate author is incapable of contradicting Himself. You are doing the opposite, trying to find any way to read a contradiction into them, just so that you can cast doubt on what they say.

“No WE don’t. LOL! That verse is similar to John 5:28-29, Daniel 12:1-2 and Matt 16:27-28. In both the first and second resurrection, both good and bad are resurrected. Recall the parable of the sheep and the goats:”

Again, you are relying on trying to insist the verses are inconsistent, in order to justify your preferred reading. The more detailed descriptions tell us that there are two separate events, and they tell us exactly who is resurrected in each event. There is no reason to try to set the less detailed descriptions against them, unless you are unwilling to believe the more detailed descriptions.

“There is no way that is describing two separate events.”

Of course it is. Unless you are arguing that there are really three resurrections, it must be. Otherwise, you are saying the descriptions of two separate resurrections are a lie, and thus God is a liar.


66 posted on 06/01/2014 7:55:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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