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To: PhilipFreneau

“The scripture plainly states that Satan has plenty of power after the resurrection:”

None of those verses you quote say a word about Satan having any power to oppose Christ. Your thesis was that the implementation of the Kingdom, which is accomplished by Christ, is somehow hindered by Satan, but all you can show me are quotes that Satan is trying to mislead individual believers. In fact, the same posts that you quote show that if those individual believers clothe themselves in the “whole armor of God”, then Satan will have no power over them either.


139 posted on 06/03/2014 8:23:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
>>>None of those verses you quote say a word about Satan having any power to oppose Christ.<<<

Then why does it take over a thousand years to defeat Satan? What is the purpose of this verse?

    "For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." (1 Cor 15:25-26 KJV)

Why doesn't he simply do it, and get it over with? Why wait a "thousand years?"


Think about it: what enemy does Christ have, other than Satan and his angels? Are you familiar with these verses?

    "And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?" (Acts 13:10 KJV)

    "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:" (Mt 25:41 KJV)


>>>Your thesis was that the implementation of the Kingdom, which is accomplished by Christ, is somehow hindered by Satan, but all you can show me are quotes that Satan is trying to mislead individual believers.<<<

Is it your understanding, that, as long as Satan only comes after people, he is not an enemy of Christ? That is imaginative; but I assure you that Christ loves his children; and the enemies of His children are His enemies.

Too bad you didn't have this passage handy when you wrote your reply:

    "He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels." (Mt 13:37-39 KJV)

If you had known and understood that passage, and/or the two previous verses, prior to posting this, we could have moved onto other points of disagreement. But I am in no hurry. It is all God's Word:

    "… and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." (2Tim 3:16 KJV)


>>>In fact, the same posts that you quote show that if those individual believers clothe themselves in the “whole armor of God”, then Satan will have no power over them either.<<<

Sorta. I suspect the early Saints, like Stephen and James, were carrying the "whole armor of God" at the time the children of Satan--those that controlled Jerusalem--murdered them. For some reason, I also suspect that murdering them might be considered having "power over them."

Of course, the "only" consequence of the Saints losing their lives (rather than their souls) is that Christ no longer had their services to help spread his Word. Their reward for laying down their lives for us is they are forever reigning as priests and kings with Christ in heaven:

    "But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever." (Dan 7:18 KJV)

Philip

141 posted on 06/03/2014 1:54:37 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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