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To: jimmyray
Titus 2:11 : For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,

James 1:21 : Therefore, putting aside all filthiness and all fnthat remains of wickedness, in humility receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls.

Isa. 1:18 : “Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.

Deut 30:19 : “I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

Joshua 24:15 : “If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”

Psalm 119:30, 111, 173 : "I have CHOSEN The Way of Truth: Thy Judgments have I laid before me....Thy Testimonies have I taken as an heritage for ever: for They are the rejoicing of my heart....Let Thine hand help me; for I have chosen Thy Precepts."

58 posted on 05/29/2014 8:01:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Very interesting list, let us consider them in context. FWIW, I am not a staunch Calvinist, rather, I adhere to scriptural doctrine, and cannot overlook obvious statements like I listed previously.

You suggested Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,"

Interestingly, I have seen this verse used to defend "universal reconciliation", which completely un-scriptural.

Compare with Titus 3:4-7 4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared,
5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.

Is faith in Christ a righteous thing that we do?

65 posted on 05/29/2014 3:36:51 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: ShadowAce
You wrote James 1:21 : Therefore, putting aside all filthiness and all that remains of wickedness, in humility receive the word implanted, which is able to save your souls.

James is writing to "Brothers and Sisters" (vs 2, 16), and clarifies in verse 1:18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.

The question, then, is what are their souls being saved from? Damnation? Entanglement in Sin? (Heb 12:1) Premature death? (1 John 5:16)

66 posted on 05/29/2014 3:53:48 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: ShadowAce
You quoted Deut 30:19 : “I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

That's WAY out of context, and has nothing to do with salvation whatsoever! This was spoken by Moses to Israel, encouraging them to keep the conditional covenant with God, regarding their land, liberty and mortal lives.

Deut 20:20 and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the Lord is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."

67 posted on 05/29/2014 3:58:58 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: ShadowAce
Isaiah 1:18, when read in context, has nothing to do with regeneration or salvation of the soul, rather, it refers once more to the conditional covenant with Israel, in the land. Kept in context:

Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, let us settle the matter,” says the Lord. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.
19 If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the good things of the land;
20 but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured by the sword.”

68 posted on 05/29/2014 4:04:27 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: ShadowAce
You quoted Joshua 24:15 If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

I won't list the whole passage here, but once more Joshua is compelling the Israelites to keep their conditional covenant with YHWH.

69 posted on 05/29/2014 4:16:53 PM PDT by jimmyray
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